Xavier Legette fuging sucks

[ProcessBlue2]

2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Dare I say Devin Funchess was better?

Probably about equal. Better hands but XL is faster 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

Dare I say Devin Funchess was better?

At this point in their careers, substantially.

[Gapanthersfan]

What really gets me, the one thing that I’ve been waiting to see, but haven’t…  dude has no heart. He’s the slowest supposed to be fast guy I’ve ever seen in my life. He doesn’t run away from anyone.

He’s a slower Ted Ginn, with worse hands, and no heart… ok, so he’s nothing like Ted. I really liked Ted. You never questioned Ted’s effort.

I don’t think I like XL much anymore. 

[Super Grateful]

not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but when I first heard XL talk - I thought he sounded...simple. a nice, downhome, simple country boy. a lot of people think his accent and vocabulary are entertaining, but to me he does not sound like someone who can digest an NFL playbook along with all of the written and unwritten rules of being a pro. It really showed today. 

[Proudiddy]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

XL can literally do nothing that Deebo nor DK can. He doesn't blow by people consistently. He isn't physical after contact. He can't break tackles consistently. He isn't elusive. He cannot catch consistently. He has no sense of body control whatsoever. He loafs on too many reps when he isn't the target. 

It's not an us problem, it is a him problem.

This is the same as TMJ or Mingo or any of the other recent bums. People always say it's us because it's easier than admitting we just wasted another pick and fuged up...again.

I am here to tell you, eventually you will see what a lot of us already basically did last season. He ain't an NFL player.

Just another in a long line of Panthers bad draft picks.

Ngl, until last year, I had missed maybe 1 game my entire life, and that was for my best friend’s wedding.  Then last year, I missed almost every game.  Was going through a contentious divorce and working, so watching us expectedly suck wasn’t high on my list of things to do.  So I didn’t see a lot of XL.  I know what he physically looks like.  I’ve watched him workout/prepare for the season.  I’ve seen clips and highlights of what he’s done.  And I know his measureables and strengths and weaknesses based off scouting reports. 
 

Respectfully, I think he is already more of a player than TMJ or Mingo ever could have conceivably been, and he already outproduced them as a rookie.  For that reason alone, I’ve been hopeful.  But in watching him even briefly so far, I can see why he frustrates many.  I still think he can develop into something like a DK or Deebo.  I just don’t think he is in a situation that is conducive to him becoming that.  But, I’m also not selling the farm in belief he will become that here or anywhere else.  As you said, we have a long history of reaching and just making bad picks under Tepper.  It’s possible XL is yet another product of that.  I just think giving him another year will tell us more…  still gonna be tough to evaluate until we have a real QB regardless.

 

[MechaZain]

6 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I’ve said it in other threads.  He belongs in the NFL, but we aren’t using him correctly.  I’ll give him the rest of this season to see how it pans out, but then again, it’s also hard to judge him because we don’t have a guy who can get him the ball in his areas of strength.  I know some compared him to DK when he came out, which is possibly an apt comparison, but with a noodle armed middle schooler at QB, it’s impossible to know that.  DK isn’t known for being ultra agile and making ridiculous, ballerina-tight rope catches.  DK is a force of nature.  A big body guy who is freakishly athletic and relies greatly on strength and straight-line speed.  That’s how I see XL at best.  At worst, I envisioned him as a bigger version of Deebo.  Again, a guy that isn’t ultra agile or quick, but big, strong, physical, and fast, but as you mentioned, Deebo worked because they were great at figuring out how to get the ball in his hands in creative ways and at scheming him open on routes.  In my estimation, none of these three are route technicians.  But the way DK and Deebo developed, that gave me hope for what XL could or can be.  I still believe he can be that dominant, but with Bryce, he is not in an offense that will foster that kind of development.

It’s my belief that just like in the preseason, when the guy pulling the trigger can’t get guys the ball in their preferred spots, it not only hinders immediate results, but it also makes it impossible to evaluate what we have.  I would like to see what XL can develop into, but as long as they keep trotting Bryce out there, that domino effect fugs everything else up.

The noodle arm plays right into XL's supposed jumpball speciality and its why he was brought here. If he has butterfingers with Bryce's floaters I don't know how more zip on the ball would help.

Really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt but Tetairoa being a 1-on-1 threat out the gate makes it difficult. Two different levels of prospects, I know, but if XL can't bring win those more often than not he's useless to us. Ginn and Benjamin had special traits that we stomached the drops for. 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Ngl, until last year, I had missed maybe 1 game my entire life, and that was for my best friend’s wedding.  Then last year, I missed almost every game.  Was going through a contentious divorce and working, so watching us expectedly suck wasn’t high on my list of things to do.  So I didn’t see a lot of XL.  I know what he physically looks like.  I’ve watched him workout/prepare for the season.  I’ve seen clips and highlights of what he’s done.  And I know his measureables and strengths and weaknesses based off scouting reports. 
 

Respectfully, I think he is already more of a player than TMJ or Mingo ever could have conceivably been, and he already outproduced them as a rookie.  For that reason alone, I’ve been hopeful.  But in watching him even briefly so far, I can see why he frustrates many.  I still think he can develop into something like a DK or Deebo.  I just don’t think he is in a situation that is conducive to him becoming that.  But, I’m also not selling the farm in belief he will become that here or anywhere else.  As you said, we have a long history of reaching and just making bad picks under Tepper.  It’s possible XL is yet another product of that.  I just think giving him another year will tell us more…  still gonna be tough to evaluate until we have a real QB regardless.

 

TBH, as someone who has seen all his games so far in the NFL, he is far more lost than Mingo or TMJ so far. It's literally disturbing how little he seems to understand how to play the position. And, quite frankly, the most disturbing was yesterday I saw some of the Mingo disinterest for that matter.

[Khyber53]

We seem to have drafted two WRs for specific traits: Catch radius and the ability to go up for a contested ball in the endzone.

We somehow missed out on things like route running, situational awareness and speed. XL and T-Mac (do they really deserve nicknames based on output yet?) aren't very good at the route tree yet, they don't seem to know to break the play for opportunities when PeeWee gets pressured and the two of them can be timed using Calendars when they are on the field.

It used to be our fastest receiver was an aging white dude who was a UDFA castoff from Minnesota. We replaced him with basically the same white dude, just younger, cast off from the Raiders.

Yeah, XL sucks, but the process that chose him and chose a partial clone of him again the next round might be the bigger problem.

 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

We seem to have drafted two WRs for specific traits: Catch radius and the ability to go up for a contested ball in the endzone.

We somehow missed out on things like route running, situational awareness and speed. XL and T-Mac (do they really deserve nicknames based on output yet?) aren't very good at the route tree yet, they don't seem to know to break the play for opportunities when PeeWee gets pressured and the two of them can be timed using Calendars when they are on the field.

It used to be our fastest receiver was an aging white dude who was a UDFA castoff from Minnesota. We replaced him with basically the same white dude, just younger, cast off from the Raiders.

Yeah, XL sucks, but the process that chose him and chose a partial clone of him again the next round might be the bigger problem.

 

I would strongly disagree on TMac. He actually does have a fairly advanced route tree for a rookie WR. 

XL seems to think a route tree is something you corner a raccoon up before making him stew.

[Tr3ach]

12 hours ago, CRA said:

They need Coker back. Easiest solution IMO is to put Coker on the outside and view XL like a Laviska Shenault type WR.   Which means he is an athlete and not a very good WR…that you can scheme up some plays for and maybe rotate him into the slot for them.   And you would get his run blocking inside over Renfrow on occasion as well.  

Bryce Young just flat isn’t going to be a good fit for XL.  He makes throw and catch challenging.  Even when things are running “well” it’s a lot of tough catches and often touch catches to the sidelines where it’s extra hard.  

Most of XL's biggest blunders have been on very easy plays. 

[Shotgun]

12 hours ago, CRA said:

They need Coker back. Easiest solution IMO is to put Coker on the outside and view XL like a Laviska Shenault type WR.   Which means he is an athlete and not a very good WR…that you can scheme up some plays for and maybe rotate him into the slot for them.   And you would get his run blocking inside over Renfrow on occasion as well.  

Bryce Young just flat isn’t going to be a good fit for XL.  He makes throw and catch challenging.  Even when things are running “well” it’s a lot of tough catches and often touch catches to the sidelines where it’s extra hard.  

I would tell XL to line up wide. Like really wide...until he's on the sideline.

[Tr3ach]

52 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

We seem to have drafted two WRs for specific traits: Catch radius and the ability to go up for a contested ball in the endzone.

We somehow missed out on things like route running, situational awareness and speed. XL and T-Mac (do they really deserve nicknames based on output yet?) aren't very good at the route tree yet, they don't seem to know to break the play for opportunities when PeeWee gets pressured and the two of them can be timed using Calendars when they are on the field.

It used to be our fastest receiver was an aging white dude who was a UDFA castoff from Minnesota. We replaced him with basically the same white dude, just younger, cast off from the Raiders.

Yeah, XL sucks, but the process that chose him and chose a partial clone of him again the next round might be the bigger problem.

 

You are going to get poo'd for mentioning tmac but im going to agree to an extent.  He definitely had flashes and looked promising, but he has got to get more crisp and urgent on his routes.  It is also a little worrisome how he seems to want to 1 hand catches when he doesnt need to.  The td attempt was in a location he could have used 2 hands to grab it but instead just used one.  All that said, it was the best looking game 1 rookie wr Ive ever seen on the panthers and he may end up being a really good player. 

[TD alt]

9 hours ago, Super Grateful said:

not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but when I first heard XL talk - I thought he sounded...simple. a nice, downhome, simple country boy. a lot of people think his accent and vocabulary are entertaining, but to me he does not sound like someone who can digest an NFL playbook along with all of the written and unwritten rules of being a pro. It really showed today. 

Sorry, dude, but that's just stupid. Just because a person talks with a southern drawl doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. I'd also add that standard English isn't a barometer of a person's cognitive ability. Actually, being able to adapt to different settings speaks toward a certain amount and/or aspect of intelligence. I bristle when someone begins to go down the road that you're suggesting.

Edited 2 hours ago by TD alt

[NorthTryon]

Everyone seemed to take a step back. XL blocked like a TE at times last year. The cornerback one on one blocking scheme up on the Chuba loss in the 3rd is a direct result of his good blocking. Then he goes as Stink put it and plays paddy-cake with the CB who busts into the backfield and disrupts the play! As we saw yesterday, he definitely lacks in the toe drag swag department. But yesterday everyone from Bryce to XL, and several defenders looked like they took a huge step back following a promising finish to the season. Let's bark as much fire as possible and hope things are going to get better in the short term. I have had this eerie feeling that we are going to be Snyder's Redskins for the next twenty five years since Tepper became the owner.