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XL about to turn the corner

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raleigh-panther Grand Master

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The first few mins of this podcast is agreeing with Cam.  The rest is failure of XL to sell his route but also the stacked WR sets calked by Canales


Really good viewpoint at 8mins and 32 seconds of this 11 min video on what is problematic with XL stopping on an option route   

Canales isnt doing the offense any favors either    not impressed but really no option 

..but Brad Izik calling plays.  The thing he foes best is be Dave’s buddy 

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5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

DJ Johnson just ticked too many boxes on the warning list. Unpolished/raw at his position, older guy, etc. 

Project players don't belong in the top 3 rounds, IMO. Not on teams completely bereft of talent. The Ravens, 49ers, etc of the world can get away with that. It's hard to justify that in the condition our roster usuallu is.

The good drafters don’t do that. That’s why we wonder how so many solid prospects drop to the Eagles or Ravens. It’s not that they can get away with reaches, it’s that they don’t do that. We do that and we can’t. That’s how you get an 8 year slump like the Jets and Browns and that’s how they seem to stay playoff contenders year after year.

 

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31 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

The first few mins of this podcast is agreeing with Cam.  The rest is failure of XL to sell his route but also the stacked WR sets calked by Canales


Really good viewpoint at 8mins and 32 seconds of this 11 min video on what is problematic with XL stopping on an option route   

Canales isnt doing the offense any favors either    not impressed but really no option 

..but Brad Izik calling plays.  The thing he foes best is be Dave’s buddy 

It does really look like they are forcing throws to him. Honestly, all the more reason to sit him. Don't let the focus on attempting to feed a struggling player the ball hurt the overall offense. He ain't JaMarr Chase.

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7 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

The good drafters don’t do that. That’s why we wonder how so many solid prospects drop to the Eagles or Ravens. It’s not that they can get away with reaches, it’s that they don’t do that. We do that and we can’t. That’s how you get an 8 year slump like the Jets and Browns and that’s how they seem to stay playoff contenders year after year.

 

100%. They have shrewd and intelligent evaluators. We have the 180 degrees of that. 

We outsmart ourselves attempting to be the smartest guy in the room CONSTANTLY.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

100%. They have shrewd and intelligent evaluators. We have the 180 degrees of that. 

We outsmart ourselves attempting to be the smartest guy in the room CONSTANTLY.

Yep. We are the fantasy owners that grab the last player left at the end of each run. We draft guys coming off bad injuries, athletic guys who’ve never shown they are good at football, one year wonders, projects, older prospects and worst of all guys who fall in more than one of those buckets. Even worse than that is we trade up for guys like that.

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On 9/19/2025 at 10:49 AM, kungfoodude said:

That's not what Bryce was pitched to be. Nor was the, what, 4th or 5th Tepper rebuild iteration?

That's the problem with all this. You trade all this draft capital up to get these guys(Bryce, XL, etc) and then when they get their opportunities they can't hack it.

As I have said many times, I view this as less of a development issue as I do an evaluation issue. We just suck at identifying talent correctly. It fails us all too often. If it was solely development, so many of these guys that left here after being failed draft picks would be studs. That is literally almost never the case.

I don’t give a fug what he was pitched to be or by whom. I’m telling you who he is and how to win with him. 

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21 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I don’t give a fug what he was pitched to be or by whom. I’m telling you who he is and how to win with him. 

We aren't going to win anything except a few meaningless games late in the season when there's no pressure to make the playoffs. That's a hard truth you're just going to have to reconcile with. The rest of us will be looking at the upcoming QB class.

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10 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

DJ Johnson just ticked too many boxes on the warning list. Unpolished/raw at his position, older guy, etc. 

Project players don't belong in the top 3 rounds, IMO. Not on teams completely bereft of talent. The Ravens, 49ers, etc of the world can get away with that. It's hard to justify that in the condition our roster usuallu is.

I never looked at 3rd round prospects that year.Used to, but man it is time consuming. But lots of people knew it, I remember the draft night reaction. And the org took him because? They didn’t see it? 
I looked at the QBs in 2023 because of the magnitude of the decision and because it was a lock we were taking QB.  

Well I saw it probably inside of a half hour of clips. Significant issues. Plenty of people saw it too. But the fuging team didn’t?

The thing with everyone bagging on the scouts… I don’t think they picked Bryce, I don’t think they picked DJ Johnson. I don’t know what they do anymore. Gatekeep who gets past them to the real decision makers? 
 

 

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