Official Week 3: Panthers vs. Falcons Gameday Thread

[mav1234]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Falcons averaged 5.5.  Bijan averaged 5.7.  

Penix just imploded the game and it was heavy Penix from the jump.  

I would wager a run run pass didn’t exist for the Falcons today 

Their second series was a run run pass. They had a couple others in the first half and others in the second. Throughout the first half their first down runs were yielding 2-3 yards, so it's difficult to go run run pass.

Definitely Penix made a ton of mistakes but the run D was pretty good in the first half. 

[frankw]

18 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Should a number 1 overall pick come out carrying a team?  No

 As Bryce continues to grow and get better we'll get more games from him and the offense carrying the load

The amount of pass attempts show me a staff and a team who are not afraid to pass.  They are not protecting Bryce 

Alright. People here need to push back more against this kind of cult like rhetoric.

Bryce Young has 31 starts under his belt. He is a first overall pick. He has $40 million guaranteed. There is absolutely no logical reason to continue to coddle him while simultaneously declaring the 32nd pick of the 2024 draft a bust in 15 career starts.

This is insanity.

Edited 1 hour ago by frankw

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bijan looked like the best player on the field first half IMO.  When he occasionally got the ball though.   I just didn’t see it as some great rush D effort.  Seemed it was just Penix and a horrific gameplan more than anything 

He touched the ball 12 times or something in the first half...  He was definitely involved. But the majority of his runs were for 2 or 3 yards. He was still the best player out there.

[PantherChris]

18 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

The rushing stats were skewed. The defense is better but it’s still worse than what we have had in the past. It’s probably at 2021/2022 level. It has just been historically bad in recent memory so seeing this progress is very refreshing. 
 

Honestly, if our defense played at just below average level, we probably would have won 2-3 more games last season.

Definitely not 21/22 level 2012 level.

[csx]

9 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

He touched the ball 12 times or something in the first half...  He was definitely involved. But the majority of his runs were for 2 or 3 yards. He was still the best player out there.

His runs 1st half.  3 good runs. Cra is just blathering about nothing. Best player on the field? 

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[jfra78]

31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Truth! LOL!

Was our defense that dominant or were the Falcons just atrocious?

Both

[TheSpecialJuan]

https://x.com/gregauman/status/1969865381293719755?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Steve Wilks 

[Loyalty4Life]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Alright. People here need to push back more against this kind of cult like rhetoric.

Bryce Young has 32 starts under his belt. He is a first overall pick. He has $40 million guaranteed. There is absolutely no logical reason to continue to coddle him while simultaneously declaring the 32nd pick of the 2024 draft a bust in 15 career starts.

This is insanity.

I wrote quite a few paragraphs to support my argument that we are not coddling Bryce.  I've never said nor do I believe XL to be a bust.  He needs to same chance to learn and grow.  

His first 16 starts did more to set him up for failure and is something I see as him having to overcome and not something to really judge him on.  It came extremely close to ruining whatever career he ends up having.  

He has not played like a first round pick yet but has flashed numerous times the skill to be a franchise QB.  Fan expectations for first round picks, especially at QB, are just not realistic.  Cam was a unicorn.  

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, csx said:

His runs 1st half.  3 good runs. Cra is just blathering about nothing. Best player on the field? 

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He had some great receptions too tbf. They were getting him involved. But yeah, he basically had half his yards on two carries and did relatively little the other carries. Our D was clearly keyed in to him.

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/gregauman/status/1969865381293719755?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Steve Wilks 

That's cold but he's got a point. Wilks and staff got blown off the field with Baker Mayfield in the first half against the Bengals.

At the same time I do think Baker Mayfield has to take some level of ownership of his immaturity and arrogance that carried over to the Panthers from the Browns.

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I wrote quite a few paragraphs to support my argument that we are not coddling Bryce.  I've never said nor do I believe XL to be a bust.  He needs to same chance to learn and grow.  

His first 16 starts did more to set him up for failure and is something I see as him having to overcome and not something to really judge him on.  It came extremely close to ruining whatever career he ends up having.  

He has not played like a first round pick yet but has flashed numerous times the skill to be a franchise QB.  Fan expectations for first round picks, especially at QB, are just not realistic.  Cam was a unicorn.  

What you described in the quote is coddling.

And nobody is asking for Cam 2.0. That's ridiculous and you know it.

[Coheed]

Wilks isn’t near the “‘miss” a lot on this board think he was IMO 

[csx]

6 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

He had some great receptions too tbf. They were getting him involved. But yeah, he basically had half his yards on two carries and did relatively little the other carries. Our D was clearly keyed in to him.

Hes a good player who had no affect today.

[Icege]

23 minutes ago, frankw said:

Alright. People here need to push back more against this kind of cult like rhetoric.

Bryce Young has 31 starts under his belt. He is a first overall pick. He has $40 million guaranteed. There is absolutely no logical reason to continue to coddle him while simultaneously declaring the 32nd pick of the 2024 draft a bust in 15 career starts.

This is insanity.

Do you have that stat line in mind yet for what a #1 overall is supposed to do at a minimum yet?

You have the time, so let's hear it bby. Stop coddling yourself and put something definitive down.

Edited 56 minutes ago by Icege