Week 3 PFF Grades

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, mav1234 said:

As usual for the last couple weeks I do care more about your thoughts from the all 22 on the defense.  Seeing some of our younger guys making plays this week on D was great.

Whether if EE is here going forward or not, but another good/decent defensive draft and we have the makings of finally a top level defense.   Being anchored by Horn and Brown.  Both absolute studs.   But again its going to suck ass if we have to blow a top 10 pick on a qb instead of a lb, safety or whatever

[LinvilleGorge]

12 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

3. S Lathan Ransom: 74.9

4. S Demani Richardson: 72.9

Forget the money we paid Moehrig that I warned was a mistake, this might be our best pair of safeties.

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Whether if EE is here going forward or not, but another good/decent defensive draft and we have the makings of finally a top level defense.   Being anchored by Horn and Brown.  Both absolute studs.   But again its going to suck ass if we have to blow a top 10 pick on a qb instead of a lb, safety or whatever

Our secondary is coming together real well for sure. And Brown is great for sure. Hoping with more time our LBs develop a bit more. We have a lot of inexperience/youth on the D that could really pay off down the line

[PleaseCutStewart]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Forget the money we paid Moehrig that I warned was a mistake, this might be our best pair of safeties.

We run a fair amount of big nickel under Evero, so we can very easily play 3 safeties between Moehrig, Ransom, and Richardson. Honestly, I would rather that and have 1 less LB on the field between Roseboom/Wallace.

I thought Moehrig played a good game against ATL and don't really understand why his tackling grade is so high and his run defense grade is so low for PFF. I don't recall him having a lot of plays where he took bad angles or something similar on run plays (things that I assume would lower run defense grades).

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

We run a fair amount of big nickel under Evero, so we can very easily play 3 safeties between Moehrig, Ransom, and Richardson. Honestly, I would rather that and have 1 less LB on the field between Roseboom/Wallace.

I thought Moehrig played a good game against ATL and don't really understand why his tackling grade is so high and his run defense grade is so low for PFF. I don't recall him having a lot of plays where he took bad angles or something similar on run plays (things that I assume would lower run defense grades).

Yeah, Moehrig in likely passing situations as a LB/DB hybrid role seems like a better approach then Rozeboom/Wallace.

[Butterflyj30]

On NFL Power Rankings we have moved up from last place to the 21slot we jumped 8 points the Saints are in last place now

 

Rank

21

8

 

 

Carolina Panthers

1-2

Three of the Panthers’ seven victories with Bryce Young starting at quarterback have come against Atlanta. He’s 3-1 against the Falcons and 4-25 against the rest of the league, which is strange, but no one is going to sneeze at a 30-zip whooping after the uninspired 0-2 start. In the first 96 minutes of the season, the Panthers were outscored 53-13. Since then, it has been a 49-0 edge for Carolina. They certainly feel like a more confident operation right now, especially defensively. There are still some warts that could come out against stronger teams, but this suddenly doesn’t look close to the worst defense in the league. Chau Smith-Wade had a pick-six, Mike Jackson added a pick and Christian Rozeboom and A’Shawn Robinson were highly disruptive. This might not be the 1985 Bears, but the Panthers’ no-name defense has come alive.

 

NFL Power Rankings, Week 4: Lions and Chargers vault into top five, while Colts crack top 10

[ncbob]

15 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

To be clear, I don't disagree. It's just exasperated when it's Renfrow due to his lack of height, reach, and leaping ability. Bryce usually misses high deep and that's an issue when you're Renfrow. Less of an issue if you're T-Mac.

I agree T Mac has to climb the ladder on short patterns. 

[Diehardpanth02]

14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Forget the money we paid Moehrig that I warned was a mistake, this might be our best pair of safeties.

Them playing behind a couple more seasoned guys until they get familiar with coverage and pace of play is a good thing though. We really can use them to spell the other guys, and in situational ball especially with Ransom on possible run/blitzing downs.

[Icege]

Moehrig had coverage issues the first two games but also had the third highest coverage grade for the defense against ATL behind CSW + Mike Jack. Good game overall for him as he had the highest pass rush grade on the defense. There were three particular plays that stood out for the all-22 review thread (still in progress: a QB hit on Penix during a blitz that affected the throw, giving Penix a little extra shove out of bounds, and ethering Charlie Woerner in the flat.

Lathan Ransom should be starting over Nick Scott, but Demani Richardson is where he currently fits best as a dependable back-up and consistent ST contributor that occasionally hits the field as the #3 safety.

Edited 11 hours ago by Icege

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

Moehrig had coverage issues the first two games but also had the third highest coverage grade for the defense against ATL behind CSW + Mike Jack. Good game overall for him as he had the highest pass rush grade on the defense. There were three particular plays that stood out for the all-22 review thread (still in progress: a QB hit on Penix during a blitz that affected the throw, giving Penix a little extra shove out of bounds, and ethering Charlie Woerner in the flat.

Lathan Ransom should be starting over Nick Scott, but Demani Richardson is where he currently fits best as a dependable back-up and consistent ST contributor that occasionally hits the field as the #3 safety.

I am a little perplexed Scott is still starting over him, TBH.

Curious to see how long that lasts this season(minus any injuries).

[Icege]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I am a little perplexed Scott is still starting over him, TBH.

Curious to see how long that lasts this season(minus any injuries).

I'm expecting once Ransom shows he has a solid grasp on running the backend with Moehrig that he'll take over for Scott. The safeties have to chirp with each other quite a bit since they're often rotating based on whatever the play call dictates (ie: aligning with the strong side or man).

[Car123]

Rozeboom is awful! There’s got to be a more capable free agent available.

[amcoolio]

Renfrow and Brycen are getting trucked when blocking, that is why David Moore is playing. Those two got to get stronger. I know AT isn't doing anything in Minnesota but he at least was a serviceable blocker. Renfrow will probably shine later in the season when he gets back into playing shape