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2 hours ago, Icege said:

Footwork and extended drop backs definitely exacerbate challenges he faces due to his stature. We saw that much when he returned from benching and showed improvement in both areas. I think that he's still pressing too... when the team gets behind, he tries to force the magic rather than allowing it to happen (bailing on pockets too early, speeding up his reads, and insisting on throwing it downfield rather than taking the checkdown on scrambles are the three that stick out the most to me).

That said... the OL has to protect to allow a QB to set their feet. We saw that in Bryce's rookie season and the first two weeks of this one (and we're seeing it over in Houston with CJ). The blitz pick-up looked much better with Mays as the center, especially with Bryce calling adjustments for the RB in pass pro. There were times where it looked like Bryce would tell Dowdle to block one way while Corbett had the line blocking another. 🙏 

I am not ready to call Mays a big upgrade with the small sample size but Corbett really set the bar very low this season. He was absolutely terrible. 

 

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20 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I liked the physical potential in AR, but I always thought he had maturity issues on the field and it was going to take the right coach to reign him in before his playing style led to the end of his career. He couldn't be Cam light because he lacked the size to take the punishment and the was some obvious emotional immaturity that we all have at that age. 

That said, the only coaches I thought might be able to handle him was Ben Johnson, Steichen, Ryans or Dan Campbell. There was no way I would have ever traded up for him. Even at 9 he would have been a risky pick. He was always a project QB to sit a year at minimum like Love. As soon as Reich was named HC, he went off my board. 

Isn't Richardson only a little smaller than Newton?

He needed to sit a year and sort out his footwork. He had the highest ceiling of the three QBs taken. Now you've wasted two years of his development. 

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Hey, I wish the guy the best. He was nothing but a great player here. No hard feelings, hope he and his family are happy to be back home.

But, we move on. Got some young guys on the squad that are going to get more field time now that he has moved on. Hopefully it's a win/win for everyone.

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On 9/26/2025 at 4:40 PM, Navy_football said:

So you really think he can't throw to the endzone from the 50? I'm not saying he has the strongest arm in the NFL, but he has more than enough arm to make all the on schedule throws. Now, I agree he ain't gonna be throwing across his body 45 yards down the field. He ain't that. 

No I don't! Do you? Why didn't he throw to the endzone?

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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401772738/titans-texans

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Anyone that has been watching CJ Stroud knows he's never stopped being capable of performances like that. He's had some struggles but, unlike our 3rd year signal caller, he's already shown over an extended period he belongs. Now the question is if he can return to that elevated play longer term or not.

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1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Anyone that has been watching CJ Stroud knows he's never stopped being capable of performances like that. He's had some struggles but, unlike our 3rd year signal caller, he's already shown over an extended period he belongs. Now the question is if he can return to that elevated play longer term or not.

I agree. In the end Stroud could reach the potential he flashed in his rookie season or he could just end up being mid. Who knows who cares at this point. The folks dunking on him are just fools carrying the water of the Tepper's no matter how loud they get or how many posts they poo. We should have never traded up to begin with. The cost was too great. We should have built the roster patiently and intelligently. And the source of these woes is 100% without question whatsoever our ownership.

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I haven’t made a deal out of CJ since we left 2023. It isn’t a thing I look at. 
I root for him if I see his game but that means nothing. Just became familiar with him and wanted to take him but Bryce stands or falls on his own and CJ Stroud’s success or failure is irrelevant to Young does.

I mean that extends to head to head. Because they are not head to head at all. They are playing against a defense. 
People trying to make it mean something so they can one up somebody? Meh whatever. 
 frank and completely, you guys are cracking me up tonight  

 

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