Carolina meat grinder

[LinvilleGorge]

7 hours ago, Waldo said:

I find it funny that these guys sign up for this job after multiple meeting with Tepper. 

Coaches or GMs who 'didn't interview well' or decline further interviews show a lot of intelligence IMO. Tepper has a type and it's why the team is a constant dumpster fire. 

That's why it's guys who don't have equivalent opportunities elsewhere. I mean, if someone offers me a fat ass paycheck with a guaranteed contract to take a job I'm not qualified for I'm gonna take it and be a whipping boy for awhile with a poo eating grin on my face and move on relieved when they fire me.

[Shotgun]

6 minutes ago, d-dave said:

Here's what I would say: he's trying to solve a lot of problems and he's not sleeping a lot.

The NFL head coaching gig is HARD on people.  Dave is trying to be too nice, make everyone happy, and keep the vibes and smiles going.  I get it.  But leadership is hard.  You have to be a hard person.  In the NFL, you have to crush dreams daily.  Sure, you can lift guys up, but you also have to cut, demote, and fire people.

Whether it's his religiosity or his personality, Dave is going to have to learn to be ruthless.  We haven't seen that too much.  Stop blowing smoke, kissing butt, and just be honest.  Certainly be respectful, but you have to be 100% honest.

He's already shown he's a nice guy, I don't think it will work for him to become ruthless at this point. The players will see right through it.

You can start out a hard ass then let up a little but not the other way around. lol

[d-dave]

7 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

He's already shown he's a nice guy, I don't think it will work for him to become ruthless at this point. The players will see right through it.

You can start out a hard ass then let up a little but not the other way around. lol

Yeah, you can't turn a 180 degree.  But instead of saying "C'mon guys, you're pros!" Dave has to find a different messaging style that demonstrates urgency.

[SmokinwithWilly]

16 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

It’s Shawshank and Tepp is the warden

Panthers fans in season 8 of Tepper's tenure

 

[Waldo]

18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's why it's guys who don't have equivalent opportunities elsewhere. I mean, if someone offers me a fat ass paycheck with a guaranteed contract to take a job I'm not qualified for I'm gonna take it and be a whipping boy for awhile with a poo eating grin on my face and move on relieved when they fire me.

Depends because these guys can do substantial damage to their profession careers vs you and me just moving elsewhere in our professions. The pool of NFL employees is pretty small vs other industries. Doesn't make sense to me for young guys like DC even with the cash in hand philosophy being always relevant. 

It gets guys who are dumb and don't know better or guys who know they aren't likely to get many chances IMO. Neither being good options

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Depends because these guys can do substantial damage to their profession careers vs you and me just moving elsewhere in our professions. The pool of NFL employees is pretty small vs other industries. Doesn't make sense to me for young guys like DC even with the cash in hand philosophy being always relevant. 

It gets guys who are dumb and don't know better or guys who know they aren't likely to get many chances IMO. Neither being good options

If Urban Meyer can still get a job you have to be a pretty sh*ty individual to ruin your career in football. 

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If Urban Meyer can still get a job you have to be a pretty sh*ty individual to ruin your career in football. 

Not in the NFL. Colleges will hire anyone and he is an analyst this year right? 

[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Panthers fans in season 8 of Tepper's tenure

 

 

 

 

[Gapanthersfan]

The NFL is a small fraternity and all these dudes know each other. They talk and know what’s what. Hey John, how’d that interview with Tepper go? … wait, he said what? 

I’d argue that Frank 100% knew what was coming his way. Not his first rodeo with an owner like Tepp. He knew the probably of getting lied to was about 100%, and I’d say he played his hand masterfully. Keep letting BY get killed by left sided speed rushers until Tep had no choice but to fire him before BY ended the season in traction. 

Canales is in WAY over his head and I’m sure is praying to get fired, but he lacks the savvy that Frank had.