Officially worse than Matt Rhule

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, toldozer said:

Yeah I think Canales would have actually succeeded as a coach with the roster that Rhule had 2020-2022. Our team talent has gotten progressively worse with awful drafting 

Yes but also look at last years draft. That was Rhule quality. Not all the damage can be blamed on Rhule or even Fritz. The current crew has helped dig that hole too.

[toldozer]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Yes but also look at last years draft. That was Rhule quality. Not all the damage can be blamed on Rhule or even Fritz. The current crew has helped dig that hole too.

Right, I don't think Morgan is any better than fitterer or Rhule but his statement was Canales is worse than Rhule and that is completely false. Rhule walked in to a better albeit not great situation and promptly torpedo the fug out of it with incompetence 

[Waldo]

18 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Right, I don't think Morgan is any better than fitterer or Rhule but his statement was Canales is worse than Rhule and that is completely false. Rhule walked in to a better albeit not great situation and promptly torpedo the fug out of it with incompetence 

Canales is an NFL level coach, not a good one but he is one. I don't think Rhule ever hit that level. Rhule being busy trying to do non-NFL stuff off the field probably kept him busy enough to do less damage on the field. Him wanting Fritz also make it an obvious choice for which is worse. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Waldo said:

Canales is an NFL level coach, not a good one but he is one.

based on what?  His offense both here and in TB is complete poo

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

based on what?  His offense both here and in TB is complete poo

I said not a good one but he was a functional OC. He isn't an OC here, he is a bad HC calling plays and way over his head. He wasn't great in TB but he wasn't poo either. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Waldo said:

I said not a good one but he was a functional OC. He isn't an OC here, he is a bad HC calling plays and way over his head. He wasn't great in TB but he wasn't poo either. 

functional is a good word to use

 

I said at the time he was a "fine" hire based on all things considered but brother there were a ton of red flags if this puppy goes south and alas here we are

[CRA]

Coaches like Canales have to be paired w/ a gunslinger or elite QB.  It's a story as old as time.  Weak boring offenses need the aggressive chunk pass plays to compliment their O.   You saw that in Tampa.  You see that in his entire coaching tree. 

this is the frustrating part about the Panthers.  All this stuff is day 1 stuff and he waste years figuring out the knowns. 

[csx]

Thats not wrong.

Edited 2 hours ago by csx

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

functional is a good word to use

 

I said at the time he was a "fine" hire based on all things considered but brother there were a ton of red flags if this puppy goes south and alas here we are

I was never a fan for many reasons. Too little experience so he wasn't ready, his offense didn't match what young could do, a cheerleader/motivational speaker is a huge negative with the Teppers, was Morgan's friend, didn't even get an interview elsewhere for obvious reasons and 1 year thst was overhyped because Baker was put into a functional offense with a deflated ego. 

We were never getting a decent hire between being tied to Young and working for the Teppers. That's just too much to overcome after a one and done pooshow that was 2023.

[Proudiddy]

Canales looks like absolute poo.  Good gracious.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

I will say at least Rhule got us to 3-0 against teams we were supposed to beat

[Panthercougar68]

2 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

Canales can (will) lose out and he’s still miles better than Matt Rhule. 

People have no idea how bad Matt really was behind the scenes.

[Manna]

1 hour ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I will say at least Rhule got us to 3-0 against teams we were supposed to beat

at this point, I miss that Phil Snow defense.

[Khyber53]

It's not an apples and oranges comparison honestly.

It's something terribly disappointing versus something incredibly disappointing.

See, not the same thing at all.

It just seems that way because, we the fans, keep seeing the same outcome again and again and again.