Under the Hood: The Panthers' Unserious Operation (tAFS Video)

[Bear Hands]

1 hr 03 min mark if my trick thingy didn't work

will follow up with notes.

[Bear Hands]

• The passing game simply stinks
  • Pass blocking is not good.  We have a solid unit but we're not the best if you're just looking at the pass game.  They noted our RG depth (although we've been weird without bringing in BC)
  • Receiver blows.  Need to spread out and be in gun to help Bryce, but McMillan has been the only guy worth anything
  • Unexplosive, juiceless, although they concur McMillan is an absolute stud/he's a hit.
  • 3 throws on the entire season less than 15 air yards that is credited "explosive" - no YAC.  No quickness or speed.       
  • Bryce Young is averaging 4.0 air yards per attempt off play action. FOUR!  No play action game at all - doesn't see well (Dead last in the NFL)
  • The team doesn't dictate to opposing defenses-
    • I.E. you seek out matchups to take advantage of.  Understand how to move your guys, manufacture opportunities.  We don't play chess.  We go out, and run a play.  No nuance to our offensive scheme.
  • Icky has been dissapointing this year.  He'll always be solid in the run game, but a top-10 LT? Nope.  
  • "When losing David Moore in 2025 is a big deal..." lol

If we can't get it going versus the Dolphins defense this week, then we're in for a serious problem.  

What I think you can take out of this likely redundant video for many here - This week is a huge benchmark.  If this offense is still sh*t, then it's time for DT to consider a big move sooner rather than later.

If this game is an indictment on the offense more than the defense, do you have enough reason to fire Evero as a transitional move? Canales' isn't firing Idzik.  Does Bryce get benched if its on the offense? What's the move if the offense sucks?  

[frankw]

The current OL issues were always my concern when we made the panic FA signings that catapulted our salary cap allocation to the unit to the top of the league. For a brief time we did our victory lap but as we have learned as Panthers fans it takes more time to form a full picture. We are really not that much better off and we should have invested in the unit via the draft.

There are many things wrong with this franchise currently. The defense is something we've discussed extensively. Evero is not the guy he was sold to be and we hilariously forced him to stay which has blown up in our faces. But for all the talk of how historically bad the defense was last year the reality of the matter is salary cap wise we are amongst the bottom of the league investment wise on that side of the ball for the year so everything flips back to the offense and rightfully so.

Really the only thing going for us against the Dolphins is that it's a home game. But my expectations for the offense are more of the same. Even if we score on the first drive it just feels like a matter of time. When we played the Dolphins in 2023 we actually hopped out to a 14-0 lead in the first quarter then they took us out to the woodshed for the second half.

We'll see how ugly it gets this go around.

Edited 1 hour ago by frankw

[Moose Hoover]

wait i thought this was only bryces fault? you mean the ol and offense as a whole is bad?

[UNCrules2187]

The fact that this is what the offense looks like 20+ games into Canales' tenure is a huge indictment. I don't believe Bryce is the guy and hope we move on after this season, but I don't think the roster building or the offensive playcalling/scheme has done him any favors either. It's literally a failure on every level, from personnel to scheme IMO.

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Moose Hoover said:

wait i thought this was only bryces fault? you mean the ol and offense as a whole is bad?

The majority of people here seem to agree this is a layered issue on both sides of the ball and coaching is not getting it done on top.

But we cannot dismiss the levels of issues that stem from our starting QB with his lack of physical traits and the domino effect it creates for the offense as a whole. Like for example the video mentions we need more plays from the shotgun and more play action as if that's not something the defenses are going to expect. Newsflash Bryce Young played overwhelmingly from shotgun in college and has never been comfortable from under center for a number of a reasons the most obvious being his height and the issues that creates and needing to take longer dropbacks to actually see the field. We ran a ton of plays from shotgun early in his rookie season it didn't make a difference.

In October of Bryce Young's third season there are 30+ games worth of tape for defenses to look at and this is how it is going to be for him regardless of scheme or playcalling. Defensive coordinators are daring him to throw downfield and in the rare event he does the passes are consistently poor and off the mark.

[Moose Hoover]

10 minutes ago, frankw said:

college

your mom goes to

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, Bear Hands said:

1 hr 03 min mark if my trick thingy didn't work

will follow up with notes.

These guys are excellent 

[Jackie Lee]

Averaging 4 yards per pass off play action? lol

[BIGH2001]

We should get better if Coker ever comes back. Leggette has been a disaster and trading Thielen was a dumb move because he actually knew how to run an intermediate route and get open. 

[L-TownCat]

You could load the field with prime Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, and they’ll just be getting their cardio in because the ball ain’t coming.  The QB is a liability regardless of who is running routes out there.

[Aussie Tank]

fug it scrap the whole lot this offseason. GM, Coach and QB