Any well functioning team benches Bryce

[electro's horse]

Seven turnovers through five games with middling offensive production is eeeesh 

[45catfan]

Only Bryce homers expect his trajectory arrow to point due North going forward.  Every one else sees him for what he is...a backup or below average starter.  If 4,5, or 6 wins is kosher with his fans, cool, but don't expect the people who have been here for every QB to don a Panthers uniform to settle for his notch above horrible ceiling.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-rankings-index-week-6-2025-nfl-season

Edited October 9, 2025 by 45catfan

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, 45catfan said:

Only Bryce homers expect his trajectory arrow to point due North going forward.  Every one else sees him for what he is...a backup or below average starter.  If 4,5, or 6 wins is kosher with his fans, cool, but don't expect the people who have been here for every QB to don a Panthers uniform to settle for settle for a notch above horrible ceiling.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-rankings-index-week-6-2025-nfl-season

Its going to be sheer misery on here when those dumb fugs pick up his 5th and bring Dalton back as well

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its going to be sheer misery on here when those dumb fugs pick up his 5th and bring Dalton back as well

Yup. You don't even have to be Miss Cleo to see that happening either.  He will end up getting us 4-6 wins this year, just enough that Tepper won't want pull the plug just yet and just out of reach of a top 5 pick for his replacement.  

Fug, more and more I feel like we are the Cleveland Browns south.

[strato]

I hope that if we get 5-6 wins and Young is the QB all year, Canales will stand on the table for getting him his QB. I hope Morgan and Tillis are with him. 
 

I know… it sounds crazy. 

Edited October 9, 2025 by strato

[electro's horse]

hopefully the national media gives up on bryce with a new shiny toy in jaxson dart

[L-TownCat]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

hopefully the national media gives up on bryce with a new shiny toy in jaxson dart

I still don’t understand the way the media/announcers treat Bryce with such deference.  It’s like he’s their little buddy and they want to put his macaroni art on the fridge.  I think that upsets me as much if not more than Young’s play.

[strato]

4 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

I still don’t understand the way the media/announcers treat Bryce with such deference.  It’s like he’s their little buddy and they want to put his macaroni art on the fridge.  I think that upsets me as much if not more than Young’s play.

I have rarely been mad at Young for any of this. Sure I am sick of his play and get frustrated wvery so often and call him a lil or a peewee or high school or something. 
It is everything that came with him that is so hard to deal with. Starting with watching him try to play NFL level ball. Knowing what was coming since April 2023 and enduring it into year three. 
Being old with a finite number of seasons left and knowing they threw at least three of them away the minute his name was called was the worst part of it. Wondering if I would live long enough to see anything better or was he going to be it the rest of my life. They keep making the  mistake of seeing something in him, clutching their delusions. Watching that happen year after year and knowing it could happen yet another year. 

Tepper stole my football joy. 

I know, poor me. But it sucks I tel you. 

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, strato said:

I have rarely been mad at Young for any of this. Sure I am sick of his play and get frustrated wvery so often and call him a lil or a peewee or high school or something. 
It is everything that came with him that is so hard to deal with. Starting with watching him try to play NFL level ball. Knowing what was coming since April 2023 and enduring it into year three. 
Being old with a finite number of seasons left and knowing they threw at least three of them away the minute his name was called was the worst part of it. Wondering if I would live long enough to see anything better or was he going to be it the rest of my life. They keep making the  mistake of seeing something in him, clutching their delusions. Watching that happen year after year and knowing it could happen yet another year. 

Tepper stole my football joy. 

I know, poor me. But it sucks I tel you. 

Im unapologetically there with you

Every time young touches the ball, i anticipate disaster and he seldom  disappoints 

 he is far far too limiting on the offensive playbook.

i watched Dart last night and i saw confidence, fearlessness, toughness, velocity and egads, a qb sneak, Quickness of decision, trusting his WRs to make plays 

and that velocity  and quick decisions didnt get his receivers killed with hospital balls 

it was his 3rd game as a starter 

Dart will have rough patches as he learns and film gets out on him but he at least has  a base to work with  

he also seems to have the ‘fire in the belly’ to compete under the big lights of the nfl

young, forget about it   Just forget about it

he can bunny hop to something else

 

Edited October 10, 2025 by raleigh-panther

[SetfreexX]

3 hours ago, strato said:

I have rarely been mad at Young for any of this. Sure I am sick of his play and get frustrated wvery so often and call him a lil or a peewee or high school or something. 
It is everything that came with him that is so hard to deal with. Starting with watching him try to play NFL level ball. Knowing what was coming since April 2023 and enduring it into year three. 
Being old with a finite number of seasons left and knowing they threw at least three of them away the minute his name was called was the worst part of it. Wondering if I would live long enough to see anything better or was he going to be it the rest of my life. They keep making the  mistake of seeing something in him, clutching their delusions. Watching that happen year after year and knowing it could happen yet another year. 

Tepper stole my football joy. 

I know, poor me. But it sucks I tel you. 

Damn.

[Shotgun]

8 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

I still don’t understand the way the media/announcers treat Bryce with such deference.  It’s like he’s their little buddy and they want to put his macaroni art on the fridge.  I think that upsets me as much if not more than Young’s play.

The Alabama contingent is that strong. If Young would have went to some random university, he wouldn't of been drafted in the 1st, maybe not at all. 

[frankw]

2 hours ago, Shotgun said:

The Alabama contingent is that strong. If Young would have went to some random university, he wouldn't of been drafted in the 1st, maybe not at all. 

[Gregg S]

On 10/10/2025 at 5:05 AM, strato said:

I have rarely been mad at Young for any of this. Sure I am sick of his play and get frustrated wvery so often and call him a lil or a peewee or high school or something. 
It is everything that came with him that is so hard to deal with. Starting with watching him try to play NFL level ball. Knowing what was coming since April 2023 and enduring it into year three. 
Being old with a finite number of seasons left and knowing they threw at least three of them away the minute his name was called was the worst part of it. Wondering if I would live long enough to see anything better or was he going to be it the rest of my life. They keep making the  mistake of seeing something in him, clutching their delusions. Watching that happen year after year and knowing it could happen yet another year. 

Tepper stole my football joy. 

I know, poor me. But it sucks I tel you. 

I'm right there with you, brother. I've been a Panther fan since the day the team was awarded to the Carolinas.  We've had some good years, a couple of great years, as well as some low periods and no consecutive winning seasons. But I never thought I'd see such a period as we have over the past several years.

 

It has gotten to the point of being rather apathetic in watching them. In fact, I told my wife before the Miami game I was watching just to see what new and creative way they lose another game.And early on, it looked like they would. But damned if Miami wasn't more creative than the Panthers.

 

I'm now older than my Dad when he died (he was 65) and, like you, I've wondered if I'll ever see them have another winning season. I'd sure like to think I will.

[Hoenheim]