Nic Scourton- PFF Highest Rated Rookie (Week 5)

[ThPantherFan]

21 hours ago, frankw said:

I am a lifelong Panthers fan but I know there's going to be another egg laid sooner or later.

I'm with on that.

[strato]

32 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I didnt see it as whining about Bryce as much as asking is this year an anomaly in the 5 years Dan has been a part of the drafting process is it an outlier. There seems to be a lot of questions about whether or not repeating this type of draft is possible, and was it Dan, or bringing in a PFF guy that was ultimately responsible for the draft results. 

That’s right. I was too exhausted to come back and specify. The Bryce investment permeated every aspect of this team and it is difficult to have any discussion without that being at least tangental to the practically any team related topic. I mean he is always lurking in the background. 

Edited 12 hours ago by strato

[shaqattaq]

19 hours ago, strato said:

Sure. Eggs are still on the menu. This class looks good though, overall. 
Granted we have a low floor for making the field  so ‘grain of salt’ applies but it is higher this year. It will likely be higher next year. 

I rewatched the final, game winning drive yesterday and was looking for the perfect place to post this.

Starting on the 4th and 5... Horn fights through a PI to catch a beautiful pass to keep the drive alive.

Next play, they bring him in motion and run Etienne behind him with TMac and Tremayne both throwing nice blocks for him (2:10 on the clock).

Next play, Evans for a TD! Fitzgerald for the PAT.

First play on defense, Thornton has a hellova pass breakup!

ALL ROOKIES! SEVERAL UDFA'S! The future of the franchise is in good hands!

Edit: Tremayne is not a rookie, he came off Washington's PS. But since he was a UFA who never played, I'm counting him.

[ThPantherFan]

20 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

know that I want to keep seeing more of the young guys just to see what we have in general. That I definitely know.

That' a true statement.

[mav1234]

26 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I rewatched the final, game winning drive yesterday and was looking for the perfect place to post this.

Starting on the 4th and 5... Horn fights through a PI to catch a beautiful pass to keep the drive alive.

Next play, they bring him in motion and run Etienne behind him with TMac and Tremayne both throwing nice blocks for him (2:10 on the clock).

Next play, Evans for a TD! Fitzgerald for the PAT.

First play on defense, Thornton has a hellova pass breakup!

ALL ROOKIES! SEVERAL UDFA'S! The future of the franchise is in good hands!

Edit: Tremayne is not a rookie, he came off Washington's PS. But since he was a UFA who never played, I'm counting him.

For once, it doesn't feel like we are needing to wait for our rookies to develop to tell if they have something. Feels very impactful 

[Icege]

2 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I didnt see it as whining about Bryce as much as asking is this year an anomaly in the 5 years Dan has been a part of the drafting process is it an outlier. There seems to be a lot of questions about whether or not repeating this type of draft is possible, and was it Dan, or bringing in a PFF guy that was ultimately responsible for the draft results. 

I wish I could gaslight myself into believing the same, but Eric Eager wasn't even mentioned until two posts before mine here on page five after the initial pivot to complain about Bryce on page one. Considering the views some of those involved have shared regarding PFF + Dan's involvement on Fitterer's team and... well...

Regardless of all of that, Nic Scourton looked really good against the Dolphins. He was setting the edge well and even looked decent in coverage when required to drop back. He was destroying the right side of the Dolphins' OL and even got the best of the LT on several occasions. Seeing what Nic's doing on the field is likely what Evero was hoping DJJ could develop into when they took him. The team also isn't using him as much on special teams (hasn't logged a punt team snap since week 2 but is still part of the FG blocking unit).

Completely different players and playstyles, but Scourton's motor and ability to remain constant while opposing OL start to gas out in the late game reminds me a lot of Charles Johnson.

Edited 10 hours ago by Icege

[strato]

19 minutes ago, Icege said:

I wish I could gaslight myself into believing the same, but Eric Eager wasn't even mentioned until two posts before mine here on page five after the initial pivot to complain about Bryce on page one. Considering the views some of those involved have shared regarding PFF + Dan's involvement on Fitterer's team and... well...

Regardless of all of that, Nic Scourton looked really good against the Dolphins. He was setting the edge well and even looked decent in coverage when required to drop back. He was destroying the right side of the Dolphins' OL and even got the best of the LT on several occasions. Seeing what Nic's doing on the field is likely what Evero was hoping DJJ could develop into when they took him. The team also isn't using him as much on special teams (hasn't logged a punt team snap since week 2 but is still part of the FG blocking unit).

Completely different players and playstyles, but Scourton's motor and ability to remain constant while opposing OL start to gas out in the late game reminds me a lot of Charles Johnson.

You seem to be unable to understand that your whining about it just turns it right back into a Bryce referendum. 
 

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

You seem to be unable to understand that your whining about it just turns it right back into a Bryce referendum. 

The holier than thou "all these other people are toxic and I'm completely perfect and have never done nothing wrong ever" shtick has worn on most people who are actually seeing the posts now but somehow it's still not clicking. But what are ya gonna do. You can lead a horse to water...

[Shotgun]

 

3 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I didnt see it as whining about Bryce as much as asking is this year an anomaly in the 5 years Dan has been a part of the drafting process is it an outlier. There seems to be a lot of questions about whether or not repeating this type of draft is possible, and was it Dan, or bringing in a PFF guy that was ultimately responsible for the draft results. 

Or maybe Tepper is pulling all the strings like a lot of posters here think. If so, Tepper made some really good draft picks this last draft.

[TD alt]

On 10/8/2025 at 12:53 PM, ProcessBlue2 said:

Morgan haters be like:

And this is exactly why I don't think Morgan's going to get the axe, not after this year's draft.

[strato]

52 minutes ago, frankw said:

The holier than thou "all these other people are toxic and I'm completely perfect and have never done nothing wrong ever" shtick has worn on most people who are actually seeing the posts now but somehow it's still not clicking. But what are ya gonna do. You can lead a horse to water...

And it wasn’t really that it was more Morgan centered than anything. 
 

shotgun I think Tepper had a non specific but huge influence over  the 2024 draft and already said stuff about that but it really feels like he let the employees do their work in 2025. 
 

[Gapanthersfan]

4 hours ago, strato said:

And it wasn’t really that it was more Morgan centered than anything. 
 

shotgun I think Tepper had a non specific but huge influence over  the 2024 draft and already said stuff about that but it really feels like he let the employees do their work in 2025. 
 

The 2025 draft felt COMPLETELY different than in years past. They selected the obvious dudes. Nothing cute or weird. No head scratchers. The Tet pick had some initial detractors, but to see what he already is and is going to become… 100% blue chip game breaker. He’s probably already racked up over 100 yards in just PI calls alone. The last time the Panthers picked a dude who from his first NFL regular season snap showed elite talent… was Cam. Just think about that. 

Scourton is already flashing potential 5 games in to his NFL career. He looks like he is going to be a very solid piece if not more. If nothing else, he’s not a liability. I haven’t paid much attention to Princely but I don’t recall him getting beaten anywhere near as badly as Burns used to. 

For a 7th round pick, Horn has already surpassed his draft position expectations (which for 7th rounders ain’t much). Is this due to true potential or are we just that damn desperate? Maybe both? 

I guess where I am going with my rambling is that this last draft WAS different. Good different? I feel like it was but that may be my naturally optimistic bend. they did not go after tweener, injured projects. They got dudes to play their natural position from big schools whose game looks like it’ll translate to the NFL at impact positions. How good (or bad) it truly was won’t be known for another couple years, but at least they went about it differently this year.

[strato]

7 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

The 2025 draft felt COMPLETELY different than in years past. They selected the obvious dudes. Nothing cute or weird. No head scratchers. The Tet pick had some initial detractors, but to see what he already is and is going to become… 100% blue chip game breaker. He’s probably already racked up over 100 yards in just PI calls alone. The last time the Panthers picked a dude who from his first NFL regular season snap showed elite talent… was Cam. Just think about that. 

Scourton is already flashing potential 5 games in to his NFL career. He looks like he is going to be a very solid piece if not more. If nothing else, he’s not a liability. I haven’t paid much attention to Princely but I don’t recall him getting beaten anywhere near as badly as Burns used to. 

For a 7th round pick, Horn has already surpassed his draft position expectations (which for 7th rounders ain’t much). Is this due to true potential or are we just that damn desperate? Maybe both? 

I guess where I am going with my rambling is that this last draft WAS different. Good different? I feel like it was but that may be my naturally optimistic bend. they did not go after tweener, injured projects. They got dudes to play their natural position from big schools whose game looks like it’ll translate to the NFL at impact positions. How good (or bad) it truly was won’t be known for another couple years, but at least they went about it differently this year.

I feel you. It seems like they have found a good combination of guys and a good value system. The longer they (draftees) do well, the less anti Dan stuff we probably will hear. 

Edited 4 hours ago by strato

[Basbear]

9 hours ago, csx said:

Same guy involved with last year's picks people are judging Morgan on.

 

I thought he only had one year in, but it does look like he came with Dan in 2023.

 

I know Brooks puts that group in a deep hole. Still the others are contributing.

XL- had his best game and maybe that's enough for him to be a factor in future games

Wallace- Switched to the green dot and playing better each passing week after a horrendous start.

Sanders- he's the #1 TE and just when he getting going with recs and yards, he gets nick'd.( he's back this week)

CSW- Much like sanders, getting going and then a minor injury hits. He's still the starting NB and not a weak point

Crumedy- Part of a legit rotation and has gotten snaps without issues

Are we counting UDFAs??- Coker is back, Richardson is a main STer and still waiting for a turn at S, Tremayne is a ST guy and the top backup for WRs. they should get credit for finding him and hitting on the others listed. 

 

Far from dogshit and yes it could be much better given the top two picks. Still 4, yes 4 starters, 1 backup and a prayer. Add in the UDFAs, its not the worst class. I will say this rating does change too much after 4 weeks are played. 

XL can get better and its not too much asking for him to be a #2 type of impact on this team that doesn't pass much. Brooks can shock the world and replace RIco next year, no team knows better about 2x ACL tears to same the knee. (I give him 50/50 never taking another snap). Still he has legit game breaker talent, 50% he could take chubbas top spot as well. Whatever you get is just a bonus.  

For this group, lets see at seasons end and who remains for the starting 2026. I feel thats fair and not his constant judging each week too many lows and highs.... They are young men trying to figure out the NFL meat grinder. 

* Brandt/Dan also got a future 2nd in that draft. Plus they kept a 2nd in the draft as well. That lead to getting Nic Scortheearth. If Nic fails, its still a great value at adding a future 2nd....when they didn't have one from the bear trade(thanks tepper/Scott). 

Edited 3 hours ago by Basbear