Bryce Young has now played one full seasons worth of games since returning from his benching in 2024

[X-Clown]

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm legitimately howling that this got you to login. As if you couldn't Google Davis Mills playoff record yourself or that I would make it up.

Get a grip.

You are counting the game that Davis Mills threw one pass for 6 yards when the backups were in during Stroud's rookie year as a playoff win for him? 

You just proved the guy's point about on this board about people not knowing anything about non Panther games....

Edited 2 hours ago by X-Clown

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

CJ Stroud minus his rookie year 

23 games 12-11 W/L

Completion % 63.6

Passing Yards 5032 (218.8 per)

Passing TD’s 29 / 16 interceptions 

Rushing yards 380 

Rushing TD’s: 0 / Fumbles lost: 4 

 

Total touchdowns: 29

Total turnovers: 20

I watched him play last night - good lord that OLine is bad. 

[OldhamA]

23 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Add on to this. 

That means I thought Bryce needed the same amount of time on the sidelines before starting because his mechanics needed fixing before being thrown on the field. 

Additionally if starting him, you need to be able to scheme him a throwing lane up the middle so the whole field is open to him when he drops back. 

The Panthers didn't fix his mechanics, they didn't have an offense set up to scheme him throws over the middle consistently and didn't draw off his biggest strength as a thrower which is numbers out to the boundary. 

 

None of the above even started happening til Canales got here and Bryce was benched. Throwing him on the field as a rookie in an offense that didn't fit his traits and skills set literally ruined what chance he had at being an NFL starting QB. 

I genuinely think Reich started mailing it in the second they picked Young. 

[amcoolio]

3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I watched him play last night - good lord that OLine is bad. 

I watched him too, and he still threw a lot of balls at the feet of the receiver when he had time or completely missed easy side outs on quick throws.

People can't say "stop moving the goalpost with Bryce, he's bad" and then also goalpost CJ. It's the same posters doing it too. CJ has just been bad. Plain and simple. A team with that defense should not be 2-4

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

You are counting the game that Davis Mills threw one pass for 6 yards when the backups were in during Stroud's rookie year as a playoff win for him? 

You just proved the guy's point about on this board about people not knowing anything about non Panther games....

What in your view is the goal?

Is what ultimately amounts to winning individual meaningless games like the Panthers have been doing while never competing for their division or the postseason the last 8+ years the bar?

Or is it actually winning in the postseason?

This team hasn't sniffed the playoffs in nearly a decade. To try and dunk on teams and players who have is pitiful. You can argue otherwise if it makes you feel better. Do what makes you happy.

[jfra78]

No matter how bad CJ is it doesn't change that Bryce is just as bad or worse

[CPF4LIFE]

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

No matter how bad CJ is it doesn't change that Bryce is just as bad or worse

Enough said

[CPF4LIFE]

We are still waiting to get a winning season much less a good individual season from bryce.  Pulling up stroud numbers does nothing here. Just goofy behavior.

[X-Clown]

26 minutes ago, frankw said:

What in your view is the goal?

Is what ultimately amounts to winning individual meaningless games like the Panthers have been doing while never competing for their division or the postseason the last 8+ years the bar?

Or is it actually winning in the postseason?

This team hasn't sniffed the playoffs in nearly a decade. To try and dunk on teams and players who have is pitiful. You can argue otherwise if it makes you feel better. Do what makes you happy.

What makes me happy is watching you backpedal/change the subject after you thought you were flexing on someone.

 

[ForJimmy]

39 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

No matter how bad CJ is it doesn't change that Bryce is just as bad or worse

I think it more shows how important a decent OL and OC is for a young QB.  CJ has shown he can be one of the best in the league if he has these.  Darnold looked like a solid starter when he got these, without it he looked like garbage.  You can take away the whole Bryce Young thing since it appears to be a sensitive subject.  Maybe Levis wasn't as bad as people thought for example looking at Cam Ward play just as bad if not worse as a rookie in that situation.  QBs are the most important position but it's still very much a team sport and always will be.  Just something to talk about until our next game. 

[frankw]

26 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

What makes me happy is watching you backpedal/change the subject after you thought you were flexing on someone.

It's interesting you perceive a simple acknowledgement of reality in terms of where we are on the ladder across the league as a franchise as flexing. But that is not at all surprising to me. I remember you arguing with me about our awful QB room earlier in the year and specifically Andy Dalton. Everything with you seems to circle back to trying to carry water for Bryce Young. You should get on the payroll bud. Don't work for free.

[thunderraiden]

On 10/19/2025 at 8:23 PM, Car123 said:

His total stats in those games:

335/543 (61.7% completion percentage)

3,392 passing yards (199.5 per game)

292 rushing yards and 6 rushing TD

32 total TD

11 INTS

8-9 record (inc 6 game winning drives)

87.0 passer rating

Sam Darnold Carolina Panther Career Stats (18 games played) 4th and 5th year in the league:

325/546 (59.2% completion percentage)

3,670 passing yards (203.9 per game)

328 rushing yards and 7 rushing TD

23 total TD

16 INTS

8-9 record (1 game winning drive)

78.8 passer rating

That was with CMC and DJ Moore; with Brian Burns, Jaycee Horn, and Derrick Brown on D


This fanbase... sorry the fanbase loves Bryce, this FORUM seriously needs to chill out on Bryce.



edit: If someone wants to bring up sam darnolds measurables in to this discussion go suck a big fat donkey digk

Edited 58 minutes ago by thunderraiden

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

edit: If someone wants to bring up sam darnolds measurables in to this discussion go suck a big fat donkey dick

How is it not relevant? His physical talent allows him to make high level throws in just about any circumstance. On the run. Off platform. Off his backfoot. His problem was always the mental aspect. It's always going to be easier for a guy like that to dig himself back into starting jobs than someone who does not have that advantage built in.

[thunderraiden]

Just now, frankw said:

How is it not relevant? His physical talent allows him to make high level throws in just about any circumstance. On the run. Off platform. Off his backfoot. His problem was always the mental aspect. It's always going to be easier for a guy like that to dig himself back into starting jobs than someone who does not have that advantage built in.

Because its a cop out with no room for nuance at all. It ignores every other similarity and just size to talk about size. Brees had worst year 3 stats than Bryce and by this forums take on the subject that should have been the end of his career. If you mention Brees its "he doesn't count because he is a HoF" if you mention Baker its "he's taller than Bryce" despite literally having way more batted balls.

Now we have Stroud trending down where does his size play into that?