Speaking of revisiting trades: Brian Burns

[carpanfan96]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't have PFF Premium anymore. Can you screen shot just him on the PFF table? 

That's why I paired it with the other article because it pulled all the numbers from the pff article. 

 

[strato]

I guess I am reaching but 7 games. 

would him playing against a couple of shitty tackles skew those numbers at least some?
Some of these OTs need help regardless of who is across from them.  

I am sorry I am naturally skeptical about stats without real context  

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

13 hours ago, toldozer said:

If you can't tell that Morgan is investing assets to try and make a dominant pass rush I don't know what to tell you. Tried to sign the dude from Philly, brought in 4ish free agents, double dipped in the draft. The plan may not pan out but it is clear the plan is to build from the line out on both sides of the ball

I’m not faulting Morgan, it’s Scott’s dumbass I was referring to

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

That's why I paired it with the other article because it pulled all the numbers from the pff article. 

 

Okay, so we don't know if those numbers are still accurate?

[PNW_PantherMan]

PFF currently has him ranked as the 21st overall EDGE for whatever that's worth.  I'm not sure that's worth what he's taking up in cap percentage.  At least not for a winning team.

[carpanfan96]

8 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

PFF currently has him ranked as the 21st overall EDGE for whatever that's worth.  I'm not sure that's worth what he's taking up in cap percentage.  At least not for a winning team.

You think a guy who's 3rd in sacks, first in solo tackles, 3rd in win rate, 2nd in run stops, and first in pd should be ranked 21st??? 

Plus they have him at 8 sacks and the NFL has him listed at 9. So dunno what the discrepancy is for. 

[Gapanthersfan]

Couldn’t play the run? Check

Quit on his team? Check

never made a game sealing play? Check

Don’t miss him 1 iota. 

[Basbear]

All it took was to draft a mini-Myles Garrett 2nd overall and draft another stud DE 5th overall after he fell.

 

BB like most NFLers needed help and those 2 young Hungary talent DE are taking the attention away from BB and ALL of them are piling up hurries, pressures, and sacks. Carter is legit and in the DROY firmly thus far. 

Just a deal where 3 players are playing at a high level and you can not double each of them while there man-beast Dexter Lawrence, whom is like a better dbrown is leftd free. 

Just a over-load of talent and BB is talented as well, hes getting the the least attention and piles up stats.  

[PNW_PantherMan]

44 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

You think a guy who's 3rd in sacks, first in solo tackles, 3rd in win rate, 2nd in run stops, and first in pd should be ranked 21st??? 

Plus they have him at 8 sacks and the NFL has him listed at 9. So dunno what the discrepancy is for. 

Yea I dunno.  I still don’t think he’s worth the franchise cornerstone contract.  Good player though.

[DeAngelo Beason]

6 hours ago, strato said:

That is true. Or close to it. Arguably. Lol. 
 

At the same time wasn’t he ostensibly in charge of shipping them out or not keeping them and putting us in Bryce land? Just to keep in the  narrow field of QBs and not other moves. 

David and Nicole Tepper were responsible for Bryce Young.  That's just undisputable fact.

[carpanfan96]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

All it took was to draft a mini-Myles Garrett 2nd overall and draft another stud DE 5th overall after he fell.

 

BB like most NFLers needed help and those 2 young Hungary talent DE are taking the attention away from BB and ALL of them are piling up hurries, pressures, and sacks. Carter is legit and in the DROY firmly thus far. 

Just a deal where 3 players are playing at a high level and you can not double each of them while there man-beast Dexter Lawrence, whom is like a better dbrown is leftd free. 

Just a over-load of talent and BB is talented as well, hes getting the the least attention and piles up stats.  

You can look at the article and the pff stats and clearly see that he gets more attention than anyone else on that line.

[kungfoodude]

27 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

You can look at the article and the pff stats and clearly see that he gets more attention than anyone else on that line.

Yeah but that is through the first three weeks of the season. No idea what thoss stats look like now.

[SmokinwithWilly]

18 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

He isn’t but looking at what those guys are getting paid, paying him what he’s making now wouldn’t have been terrible, they should have and still should be looking at pairing some guys with brown to form a pretty dominant d line 

But if you're planning to make a move for a QB in the future, and we were, those picks would have been huge trade capital. Now ask yourself how much better situation would we have been in if we had been able to exchange the Rams 1sts instead of our own and DJ Moore? 

Would we still have ended up with the number 1 overall? Possibly. 

Would we have kept Darnold since he was showing improvement and see if he improved, then had 4 1sts in 2 years to get our QB. Its possible. 

We could have also used those 4 1sts to build around Bryce and our defense. 

We could have done a lot. It wasn't just about Burns. It was admitting we weren't just a single piece away. Burns gave us 3 high value pieces to build from in trade value if played correctly. For a GM with any vision for the future, that's a grand slam and you're signing that trade before they can reconsider. 

[SOJA]

The answer as always was take the Rams deal

The second option was as soon as you hang up on the Rams you extend him right then (probably would have been around 25-27 mill a year around that time)

The third and worst option is what the panthers ended up doing (not Dan's fault)