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An interesting wrinkle to catchable balls..

Bryce has in fact jumped to #2 in deep-ball catchable rate, but is still #31 overall in pressure catchable ball rate, #23 in clean pocket catchable ball rate, and #32 in blitzed catchable ball rate. No matter the depth of field.  Overall.  #28 in clean pocket completion %.

McMillan is also low as he's ranked #73 in rankable receivers in overall catchable balls...and he takes up a 26% team target share. 

Now here's the interesting note - McMillan's target share jumps crazy to 51.6% of our deep balls  (Where Bryce's rate boosts to #2).  It's telling me they do have a bit of a connection developing for the deeper throws.  That seems just like a mutually beneficial situation happening.  Good.  

Next step is you look at the volume, and yep, he's throwing likes a half of the classified deep balls as others.  Sooooo...a stretch of deep completions bumps him up more impact-fully than others.  Not discounting anything, there's progress, improvement on the deep ball, just good to know that context. 

Buuuut as noted, Bryce's rate is consistently still league floor for everything except deep ball where McMillan has over half the team targets. 

So he's improved with Tmac, which has bumped up his deep ball game.  There's till big issues is his intermediate game and play outside against zone defense - that's the same/has never improved, always around #25-32 since year 1.  

So time to maintain the deep rhythm and keep proving more people wrong.  Would be fun to see improvement and more wins.     

 

 

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1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

I assume this means he doesn't throw the deep ball unless the WR is High School wide open.

Not at all, the catchable stat is based on placement.  Did the qb put the receiver in a favorable position type thing.  The Stat you'd be looking for is separation and he hasn't had much separation from his relievers so far in his nfl career.

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19 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

An interesting wrinkle to catchable balls..

Bryce has in fact jumped to #2 in deep-ball catchable rate, but is still #31 overall in pressure catchable ball rate, #23 in clean pocket catchable ball rate, and #32 in blitzed catchable ball rate.

Alarming stats considering how many of these are checkdowns 

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On 12/10/2025 at 4:59 PM, Bear Hands said:

If I'm being honest, I still have no idea what to think of Bryce.  And the uncertainty/divide in how to think of him only further shows why everyone is in a bit of a tough spot (fans, the team, heck, Bryce himself)

He's had:

3 non-consecutive stellar games this year (DAL, LAR, ATL-2) - no disputing this

2 games where he initially looked terrible and then turned it around (AZ, MIA) - Both started so bad but he eventually came around. 

6 where he was just really bad and difficult to watch.  What we've been used to and was as recent as Thanksgiving on National TV.    

1 where he didn't need to do much and we won handedly (ATL-1)

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I think what a lot comes down to - Most fans REALLY don't like the fact that he has insurmountable physical limitations, so when he's bad, it feels like the pit of misery.  Being stuck with a guy with no real elite physical traits where the team needs to be near perfect. It's just like "Ugh we're stuck with this shrimp dick?"

He only very recently pulled together a game where he showed off franchise ability.  I just need to see more.  Nothing has come together but we've finally seen a flash.  Took a while, but the Atlanta and Rams games were what I want to see.  Hope it can continue. 

The duds just hit you like a frying pan to the head.

Yeah, I’m with you, gotta see four quality  games to end this season to convince me that he deserves a fifth year payout. I just can’t see this guy, with his limitations taking the team on a deep playoff run.  Hope he can prove me wrong, extremely pessimistic though. Good thing for BY we are in poo division. 

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