Winning isn't enough for Panther fans.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Fantasy sites often talk fantasy.   We have seen their numbers dismantled before.  The fantasy football folks have some crazy views on “accurate” balls.   They log really bad throws as accurate.   

Bryce barely throws downfield.  Go post the volume of those throws and production off them lol

These numbers are coming from the same source. Likely NFL NGS. PFR uses the same data for Bad Throw and On Target percentages. The only thing those fantasy sites do is actually pay others for the data.

I think the only one that does real data for itself is whomever purchased the DVOA website.

[JawnyBlaze]

Wins aren’t a QB stat. Bryce is incredibly inconsistent and unreliable. His range is from terrible to decent, who knows which end of the spectrum you’re getting on any given play.  He lacks the accuracy and arm strength to be a playmaker and lack the decision making, ball security and pocket awareness to be a game manager. At this point he’s simply a bad QB. Maybe, hopefully, he can evolve into a game manager because those are the traits that can be more easily corrected. But time is running out. 

[Jackson113.2]

He'll probably be a decent coach or talking head on TV one day, but he just doesn't have it physically and he can't fake that.

[PleaseCutStewart]

6 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

Let me guess... 75% on completing 3 out of 4 passes 20+ yards (of which all of the passes were probably to wide open receivers).

And lol at short pass completion % for #2 and 3 being Rattler and Bryce. That just tells you both QBs check down way too often... I don't care if you are accurate throwing a 3 yard dump off on 3rd and 10

[strato]

6 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

[PleaseCutStewart]

5 hours ago, kass said:

Winning games and be a +500 team are good. But the goal is to win Super Bowl. 

Chiefs had Alex Smith, went to playoff twice and still replaced him.

 

BY as of now:

- To many fumbles

- Completion in the intermediate range is just far below acceptable

- Not enough of a deep throw threat....

 

The stats you try use is deceiving. 

Catchable...... 

That is an opinion.

Show me the completion %.

And also, how does BY compare to other QBs using the stats you cited. Oh... ranked at 27

 

Lol, can't tell if the OP is part of Bryce's family or what. Even the usual Bryce nuthuggers aren't this bad...

Dude just cherrypicks random stats trying to make Bryce look good

[HaricotVert]

The wins are the dopamine hit that help distract people from just how much of a miss BY9 was/is.

Yeah they feel good in the moment but they dont change the reality of our QB situation.

[TLGPanthersFan]

The frustrating thing about this team is they are good. But the offense being held back by the guy under center means we have to become one dimensional. 
I truly believe this is at best a top 15 offense if we had a reliable, good QB. Someone that could average at least 200+ yards a game. 
The Panthers offense, you can feel the potential, but it will never be reached as long a Bryce is the QB. 
I am happy for the wins but some of them would have not been close if Bryce was better. 

[toldozer]

Bryce is about the 20th best starter in the league. I think we can be both happy that we are winning and still understand what is needed to truly compete in the playoffs.

[Packersfan]

1 minute ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

The frustrating thing about this team is they are good. But the offense being held back by the guy under center means we have to become one dimensional. 
I truly believe this is at best a top 15 offense if we had a reliable, good QB. Someone that could average at least 200+ yards a game. 
The Panthers offense, you can feel the potential, but it will never be reached as long a Bryce is the QB. 
I am happy for the wins but some of them would have not been close if Bryce was better. 

I hope you guys get back to your winning ways like a decade ago. Cam Newton was awesome to watch.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Wins aren’t a QB stat. Bryce is incredibly inconsistent and unreliable. His range is from terrible to decent, who knows which end of the spectrum you’re getting on any given play.  He lacks the accuracy and arm strength to be a playmaker and lack the decision making, ball security and pocket awareness to be a game manager. At this point he’s simply a bad QB. Maybe, hopefully, he can evolve into a game manager because those are the traits that can be more easily corrected. But time is running out. 

Nix was 16/28 for 150 yards, 1 TD, and 2 INTs last night en route to putting 10 whole points on the board but the Broncos won so he "won the game". Just laughable.

[PNW_PantherMan]

13 minutes ago, Packersfan said:

I hope you guys get back to your winning ways like a decade ago. Cam Newton was awesome to watch.

The "winning ways" were honestly just a temporary vacation from being 7-9.  But thanks we appreciate the kind words.

[TLGPanthersFan]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nix was 16/28 for 150 yards, 1 TD, and 2 INTs last night en route to putting 10 whole points on the board but the Broncos won so he "won the game". Just laughable.

They won because the Raiders Raidered

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

They won because the Raiders Raidered

Pretty much. Sometimes you can win just by waiting for the other team to lose. Basically what we did against the Jets.