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Canales Did Not Call a Terrible Game


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9 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

I wouldn’t be so sure. Bryce doesn’t fit the mold for Canales’ system at all. He inherited Bryce and can probably see his limitations on a daily basis. I am of the belief that Morgan and Canales will move off Bryce when they can. 

They did it.  They moved on from him 2 games into the Canales era.  

Morgan’s management of the QB room allowed the comeback and he allowed the pointless season this year.

Canales is fugged.  Because now, Tepper isn’t going to let the clock start on Dave 3 years in.  Nor are the fans. 

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1 hour ago, Oldschool Leroy said:

the question i have is : did he tell Tepper he could fix him. If he did he is screwed. The benching last year  kinda says to me, he didn't guarntee it. But then did he commit to him based off his late season play last year; which in that case he is screwed again.

Would you have promised you could fix him? To get the job and the money? Or would your rep maybe be more important to you.

Arguing this elsewhere and I feel like, based on how I operate which might be my big mistake, but I would be honest and say I don’t know if he can be fixed, but I have plan to try that has brought me success. I do have to say, it is a very challenging proposition because of his poor mechanics and his size. Here is all you can really do… and proceed to tell what I would try to do.  

My question to you (meaning to Tepper) is if it fails do I lose my job or do I get a chance to prove myself with someone of my choosing? 

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Probably need to acknowledge that both OL and DL got punched in the mouth today. The delay blitzes into line gaps should have been stopped at some point but the staff and players had no answers.

The Saints came in with confidence and did not let up. We acted like it wasn't fair that they wouldn't let us win.

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5 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

He had bryce throw 25 yards, rico ran 18 times.  We can quabble about the design of his pass plays, but he passed at a correct clip BECAUSE from the start, saints STACKED the box.  Its not even about passes over 20 yards, its passes 5-10 yards, he couldnt even do that.  Multiple passes off target to T-mac.  YAC isnt a thing if your shotgun blasting passes around the field it is bad.  Ive given bryce more leeway than I should, needs to be just straight up cut.

You say that, but the offense was still predictable as crap. The same indide zone run and the slot receiver running the three yard out route was pretty much our entire offense...

I know Bryce can't throw deep for crap, but you have to start sending receivers deep when NO is running press man on the outside with zero safeties over the top. Instead we are running every eligible receiver 10 yds or less.

Bryce sucks, but this offense is way too easy to scheme against. Honestly shocked other defenses haven't done what New Orleans did today

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The formations were the same running scheme he has run with Dowdle since he became starter and it doesn’t work now that other teams have tape on it. Dowdle is going to be neutralized and they have to have someone else step up and make plays. McMillian is the only other player who can consistently make a play other than Dowdle and he’s a rookie. Bryce just isn’t it, the entire team probably knows it at this point, I think Bryce feels it, and it drags the whole team down into the abyss. They are probably not bouncing back from this loss with how difficult the schedule gets after the Falcons game. It’s brutal. Every team is going to sell out to stop the run, and the Panthers won’t have an answer for it. The season is over. 

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