Canales is telling us, but we aren’t listening

[NAS]

54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. Same with those other busts. Those are hedged bets, not primary plan #1. Darnold wasn't the plan for Minny. Geno wasn't the plan for Seattle. Jones wasn't the plan for Indy.

Those guys just eventually became options due to attrition, trades or winning the competition. 

That's the way I want to deal with bust QB's. As a potential option after a camp battle or injury. Not as Plan A. That's just insane.

Agreed need a proven commodity as a bridge QB and bring in one of these young guys to compete. 

[CRA]

24 minutes ago, KaseKlosed said:

Panthers now average 0.32 ASS on deep routes (league avg: 0.28) and a 55% open rate on deep targets (league avg: 52%). They've racked up 28 deep completions (top-10) for 892 yards (8th), a far cry from 2024's bottom-5 finish. Young's deep accuracy sits at 48% (league avg: 46%), with 8 deep TDs (tied for 7th).

 

Key Panthers WRs on Deep Routes (Through Week 10)

Roster shakeup: Adam Thielen was traded post-cuts; Jalen Coker is on IR (injured early); Hunter Renfrow was re-signed as a slot option but sees occasional deep looks. McMillan and Xavier Legette (2024 1st-rounder) form the core vertical duo

 

.Team Total: 71 deep targets (12th in NFL); 30 completions (9th); 958 deep yards (7th).

Strength: McMillan's addition has flipped the script—85th percentile in single-coverage separation (per PFF). Legette's growth adds balance.

Weakness: Depth beyond the top two is thin; Renfrow provide YAC but not elite separation (group ranks 18th in deep YAC).

Comparison to Other Teams

Panthers WRs are now solid mid-tier, a huge leap from 2024's bottom-5. McMillan has vaulted them past teams like the Giants/Patriots, but they're not yet elite (e.g., trailing Eagles/Chiefs). (Min. 65 deep targets/team.)

 

Sources: PFF Receiving/Separation Reports (2025), Next Gen Stats, FantasyPros Advanced WR Metrics

this is called gaslighting with bad information.

they do not have 28 deep completions, and they are not top 10 in yards and completions going deep lol.     

did you ask AI do pull that info for you?  This is the problem w/ relying on AI.  It doesn't do a good job. 

[Waldo]

49 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I bet he would.

I'm glad they didn't too

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, KaseKlosed said:

Panthers now average 0.32 ASS on deep routes (league avg: 0.28) and a 55% open rate on deep targets (league avg: 52%). They've racked up 28 deep completions (top-10) for 892 yards (8th), a far cry from 2024's bottom-5 finish. Young's deep accuracy sits at 48% (league avg: 46%), with 8 deep TDs (tied for 7th).

 

Key Panthers WRs on Deep Routes (Through Week 10)

Roster shakeup: Adam Thielen was traded post-cuts; Jalen Coker is on IR (injured early); Hunter Renfrow was re-signed as a slot option but sees occasional deep looks. McMillan and Xavier Legette (2024 1st-rounder) form the core vertical duo

 

.Team Total: 71 deep targets (12th in NFL); 30 completions (9th); 958 deep yards (7th).

Strength: McMillan's addition has flipped the script—85th percentile in single-coverage separation (per PFF). Legette's growth adds balance.

Weakness: Depth beyond the top two is thin; Renfrow provide YAC but not elite separation (group ranks 18th in deep YAC).

Comparison to Other Teams

Panthers WRs are now solid mid-tier, a huge leap from 2024's bottom-5. McMillan has vaulted them past teams like the Giants/Patriots, but they're not yet elite (e.g., trailing Eagles/Chiefs). (Min. 65 deep targets/team.)

 

Sources: PFF Receiving/Separation Reports (2025), Next Gen Stats, FantasyPros Advanced WR Metrics