So do we really want to win?

[uncfan888]

25 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think the focus is on the NFC South because the two teams contending for the title are the two teams absolutely floundering down the stretch. The Falcons and Saints are clearly better teams right now than us and the Bucs but it is what it is.

Yeah the saints are definitely the best team in the division right now.. And with the best quarterback 

[CRA]

I mean, it's pretty simple.  If the huddle thinks we are going to win and got a real shot at it.....I'll go to Vegas and bet on us to lose.  If the huddle can guarantee a loss, I'll go bet on us to win. 

this is what I have learned.  I'm not letting Seattle skew that. 

 

[45catfan]

13 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Look at this swath of draft slots depending on how next week shakes out.

 

I posted this in the draft section earlier.  That's a lot of draft slots in play.  

[Panthering]

Of course we want to win, c'mon. I've had fun cheering for the Panthers this season and a division title would be a cool moment for us. No expectations in the playoffs and that's fine, but it's a good thing to win.

[LinvilleGorge]

28 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I absolutely want to win. You dont create a "winning culture" by losing for draft picks. 

Every year I hear about this "building winning culture" when we're tanking our draft position with late season wins. I don't think getting dog walked by a legit playoff team at home in the wildcard round is gonna do much for establishing winning culture.

[KillaCamNewton]

If we get a home playoff game who is blowing us out?

we beat the Rams, smoked the game against SF, and were a Horn penalty away from having the ball in the 4th to tie it up yesterday

i am not naive enough to think this is a super bowl roster but how would anyone not want a spot in the dance in a year where Burrow Mahomes and possibly Lamar Jackson are out of the playoffs and the 1 seed in the NFC is likely going to be a team QB’d by Sam Darnold?

Edited 1 hour ago by KillaCamNewton

[UnluckyforSome]

Why is it a black and white thing? Of course I would want them to win. I am absolutely not going to be carried away with with grief and despair if they lose. I'm an adult, there is so much more going on in life that doesn't hinge on the outcome of a mostly-shitty football team. My darkhorse team is still alive. My team B is very much in the mix. The Panthers have been better than expected. It's been a good season.

I expect them to lose at this point. 

Edited 1 hour ago by UnluckyforSome

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

If we get a home playoff game who is blowing us out?

we beat the Rams, smoked the game against SF, and were a Horn penalty away from having the ball in the 4th to tie it up yesterday

i am not naive enough to think this is a super bowl roster but how would anyone not want a spot in the dance in a year where Burrow Mahomes and possibly Lamar Jackson are out of the playoffs and the 1 seed in the NFC is likely going to be a team QB’d by Sam Darnold?

Rams rolled through us like a wet paper bag......and happened to have 3 bad offensive plays.  Bryce did virtually nothing that entire game.....except 2 throws on 4th down that frankly felt like trick plays.  Sometimes get lucky, but all the info was there to know they are vastly better than us. 

We need teams to beat themselves, when we play good teams.  We have zero wins in Bryce's career where we beat a good team having a good day.  We got the doors blown off us if we see that. 

[acwimby24]

7 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

I'm an adult, there is so much more going on in life that doesn't hinge on the outcome of a mostly-shitty football team.

This is so real twin. Why do 40-something year olds spend their lives screaming at a tv in a game that doesn’t involve them??  

[Jon Snow]

Hell yeah I want to win! It all starts by winning the division. The goal every season is to win the division. Do that and then you can worry about winning the SB.

[TD alt]

The playoffs are on the line; you play to win the damned game.

It's really preposterous to think that the Panthers will strive to do otherwise. But I can understand the rationale of fans thinking losing would be better in the short and long term, I just disagree with it. At some point you have to think in terms of standing on business while winning, not looking to improve by losing. 

fug a few spots at draft position. I've always said that if your GM, scouts and HC can't identify talent to improve the team in every round, especially days one and two, then they don't need to be on the job. I give them the built-in grace on day three, but only because of historical probabilities, but there is no excuse for not being able to come away with at least one impactful starter on day one, and very little excuse to not come away with one on day two. No one will ever make me believe that when you have first, second and even third round draft picks that you can't come away with a player that continually (not continuously) has a positive affect on the field, so it makes little sense in my opinion to whine about approximately five draft positions. Now if we get to the playoffs and win in the first round, admittedly our draft position would be markedly different, but I'm never gonna cry about winning. Like AI said, I expect the FO to do its damned job regardles. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

55 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Every year I hear about this "building winning culture" when we're tanking our draft position with late season wins. I don't think getting dog walked by a legit playoff team at home in the wildcard round is gonna do much for establishing winning culture.

It doesn't matter.  Make the right picks.  The same teams are picking in the 2nd half of the draft every single year.

What matters is if they give Bryce a contract because we made the playoffs.  Nothing else is important.

[strato]

I feel like we are doomed win or lose. 
 

So win.

 

But if I KNEW that we could be free from Bryce with a loss? Well, I don’t know that so it is moot.  

Edited 24 minutes ago by strato

[hepcat]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Every year I hear about this "building winning culture" when we're tanking our draft position with late season wins. I don't think getting dog walked by a legit playoff team at home in the wildcard round is gonna do much for establishing winning culture.

I disagree. I don’t see how losing to Tampa in the final week would help anything. It would leave a sour taste going into the offseason. Even if they get blown out in the playoffs the confidence boost of just getting there would benefit the development of some of the younger players who will be here for the future. If they fold in the final game, it’s just going to deflate the team morale next year, especially if Bryce is the reason they lose.