The End of the Road for XL

[PadresPanthersFan]

Time to call up Jerry jones

[LinvilleGorge]

What's been most disappointing is that he's not even a dangerous guy in space with the ball in his hands. I figured worst case scenario he could be a decent gadget player to get the ball in his hands on screens and scheme up YAC opportunities but he doesn't have any vision as a runner and for a guy with his measurables he seems to lack suddenness and goes down easy. Just a straight up bust.

[electro's horse]

I mean what’s the thought process behind bailing on XL but hanging on to Bryce?

XL is a decent blocker at least and Dave doesn’t use traditional x, y, z wr setups. He just wants to keep rotating fresh bodies.

 

[OldhamA]

53 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

If we could swing a Mingo - like trade for him and get a 4th round pick it might be a heist. 

We definitely could use a much better 2nd/3rd option at WR. A dude like Tedd Ginn Jr or Jameison Williams basically,  someone with crazy burners that opens up the offense.

We do have Jimmy Horn but Canales doesn't utilize him enough.

Young underthrows Coker and T-Mac, what use does he have for a burner?!

[OldhamA]

57 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

So aside from the blatant NFL rigged bullshit, it does appear that the XL experiment is basically over.  I noticed XL was not on the field often after that first drive with a drop that while a hard catch, was catchable and needed.

XL's Snap couunt was down to 31%, just 16 offensive snaps.  Coker was at 92%, and Tmac was 88%.  For reference, Jimmy Horn Jr had the same amount of snaps as XL and coincidentally bryce had one of his better passing days of the season (Which was lost in the absolute clusterfug that was the officiating and terrible run game yesterday).  

Also he was relegated to doing special teams...Ya know what happened to Chuba Hubbard when he was essentially benched earlier this season. 

I think the XL Experiment is over.  I think its pretty obvious that in the offseason they will try to bring in another receiving option.  I dont think he'll be cut, but if a team comes offering a 4th or MAYYBE a 3rd for him, he's gonna be shipped in the offseason, so yea we might be stuck with Bryce for better or worse for a bit longer, but the Legette Project is pretty much done.

I bet Legette's agent is kicking himself that he didn't sit down with Tepper pre-Draft and wow him with his table etiquette. 

Seems to get you a 5 year contract, regardless of play on the field...

[CRA]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Young underthrows Coker and T-Mac, what use does he have for a burner?!

He needs a punt returner to work a screen/dump game for him.  That ain’t Horn.  He needs some physical quick runner.

and Bryce and Canales need an offseason to figure out how to setup and work a good screen game.  

[PNW_PantherMan]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I mean what’s the thought process behind bailing on XL but hanging on to Bryce?

XL is a decent blocker at least and Dave doesn’t use traditional x, y, z wr setups. He just wants to keep rotating fresh bodies.

 

Because propping up Mr. Big Time Throw means nobody else has any room for error.  XL is terrible, but Bryce defenders can't afford to be fair to him.

It would be like if Ian Thomas had a fan club that berated every other player on the offense every week.  I don't get it.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

besides the drops, XL wasn't even this bad his rookie year

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Because propping up Mr. Big Time Throw means nobody else has any room for error.  XL is terrible, but Bryce defenders can't afford to be fair to him.

It would be like if Ian Thomas had a fan club that berated every other player on the offense every week.  I don't get it.

Yeah, I mean in a world where Bryce Young is starting for a 4th season…..

why does XL not get more time lol.  XL’s family is going to start making accounts and talking about his 4th quarter production!  He gets going late when it matters!  Ball placement and off target throws are the real culprit! 

[UnluckyforSome]

But he talks funny and likes livermush!

Makes as much sense as any other reason. He is not an NFL wr. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

besides the drops, XL wasn't even this bad his rookie year

Coming into this season you could tell it was off.  Way way too much media fluff on XL. Dude already became a NFL personality without the play.  And when he got booted in his one preseason game I thought that was the red flag….NFL is an above the shoulders game and it was over before the season started this year. 

people should revisit some of this preseason defenses of XL and Dave.  It was all there IMO.  The red flag was there on Dave not taking playcalling serious like a bad playcaller needed.  XL’s head wasn’t in the game.  And the team knew Bryce couldn’t handle much.   Preseason been doing crazy talking ever since Rhule’s year 2.   It’s not always talking loudly but some years it screams at you 

[flagfootballcoach28]

This is why you don’t reach for need.. Ladd was there but they were ok with AT as slot (lol) Cooper and Frazier were light years better prospects than XL as well. They had tunnel vision on an X WR. 
 

He’s been so bad that I couldn’t see a team offering anything more than a 6th for XL. Maybe a 5th if we’re lucky. It’s time to move on. We’re a worse team when he’s on the field. Only silver lining to think of is maybe the XL and Brooks pick was a necessary evil for Dan Morgan to change his draft strategy, which seemed to improve last draft even though wasting an entire draft in 2024  is inexcusable. Having Cooper Dejean would’ve been fun. Instead the well run franchises continue to pull the right strings while we look like incompetent clowns. 

Edited January 4 by flagfootballcoach28

[UnluckyforSome]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Coming into this season you could tell it was off.  Way way too much media fluff on XL. Dude already became a NFL personality without the play.  And when he got booted in his one preseason game I thought that was the red flag….NFL is an above the shoulders game and it was over before the season started this year. 

people should revisit some of this preseason defenses of XL and Dave.  It was all there IMO.  The red flag was there on Dave not taking playcalling serious like a bad playcaller needed.  XL’s head wasn’t in the game.  And the team knew Bryce couldn’t handle much.   Preseason been doing crazy talking ever since Rhule’s year 2.   It’s not always talking loudly but some years it screams at you 

Well, we have never ever been any good when we have looked bad in preseason. It has been a reliable predictor of how the team will be heading into the season. 

That said, many folks will brush it off, invoke Iverson's famous line about practice, and instead say well no team gameplans, and it's all vanilla coverages and har har we are going to the Superbowl.

[jbland]

1 hour ago, Carolina Cajun said:

So aside from the blatant NFL rigged bullshit, it does appear that the XL experiment is basically over.  I noticed XL was not on the field often after that first drive with a drop that while a hard catch, was catchable and needed.

XL's Snap couunt was down to 31%, just 16 offensive snaps.  Coker was at 92%, and Tmac was 88%.  For reference, Jimmy Horn Jr had the same amount of snaps as XL and coincidentally bryce had one of his better passing days of the season (Which was lost in the absolute clusterfug that was the officiating and terrible run game yesterday).  

Also he was relegated to doing special teams...Ya know what happened to Chuba Hubbard when he was essentially benched earlier this season. 

I think the XL Experiment is over.  I think it’s pretty obvious that in the offseason they will try to bring in another receiving option.  I dont think he'll be cut, but if a team comes offering a 4th or MAYYBE a 3rd for him, he's gonna be shipped in the offseason, so yea we might be stuck with Bryce for better or worse for a bit longer, but the Legette Project is pretty much done.

From what I can see, XL is a lazy route runner.