Mike McDaniel for OC?

[PNW_PantherMan]

Also put me in the camp that thinks McDaniel doesn't get a head coaching gig this year.  The optics around the Dolphins collapse are very bad.  It made him seem unqualified or at least not ready to be a HC by many teams.

[Waldo]

27 minutes ago, t96 said:

I know he's already been linked to a few other teams' HC openings, but I can't for the life of me understand why. I don't think he's been remotely good in Miami.

I thought he did good up to the point when they gave Tua that deal in 2024. That was around when they let the D fall apart while only focusing on the O.

His head did get too big IMO from his successes. 

As an OC? Hell yeah. 

[Waldo]

10 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Also put me in the camp that thinks McDaniel doesn't get a head coaching gig this year.  The optics around the Dolphins collapse are very bad.  It made him seem unqualified or at least not ready to be a HC by many teams.

He shouldn't. He obviously needs a reset but NFL teams do NFL things. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Just now, Waldo said:

I thought he did good up to the point when they gave Tua that deal in 2024. That was around when they let the D fall apart while only focusing on the O.

His head did get too big IMO from his successes. 

As an OC? Hell yeah. 

The tape got out on his boy genius video game offense and he doesn't have the interpersonal skills to run a locker room of 53 professional football players.

Would love to have him as OC though lol.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

22 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

They're not gonna fire Brad Idzik after he fixed Bryce you guys.

Fixed, you say?

Is there a warranty for said repair?

[Waldo]

8 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The tape got out on his boy genius video game offense and he doesn't have the interpersonal skills to run a locker room of 53 professional football players.

Would love to have him as OC though lol.

I'm not going to say never. Reid couldn't overcome DC Johnson retiring but he fixed a lot of his issues when he went to KC and had great success there after Philly. People can grow but they also have to be hungry enough to address their own issues. 

We will see how big his head and ego are. He could be a stud OC and just pull a Kiffin the rest of his career. Other than pay, I would choose that path too. Owners suck all the best parts of the game away and could only imagine having to report to them dirrectly. Ross is a known assbag too. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

I'm not going to say never. Reid couldn't overcome DC Johnson retiring but he fixed a lot of his issues when he went to KC and had great success there after Philly. People can grow but they also have to be hungry enough to address their own issues. 

We will see how big his head and ego are. He could be a stud OC and just pull a Kiffin the rest of his career. Other than pay, I would choose that path too. Owners suck all the best parts of the game away and could only imagine having to report to them dirrectly. Ross is a known assbag too. 

I agree.  I'm not saying he'll never be successful.  But most of those redemption stories involve a stint as a coordinator.

[bythenbrs]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Same reason Nixon kept Spiro agnew around as long as he could. 

True.  Few people remember that.  Kudos to you, Sir!

[jb2288]

That would be sweet but I don't think he would come here and I also don't think Canales would get rid of his buddy

[Stumpy]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

They're not gonna fire Brad Idzik when he knows the youporn passwords...

Fify

[electro's horse]

Idzik looks like he has really smooth hands 

 

[t96]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I thought he did good up to the point when they gave Tua that deal in 2024. That was around when they let the D fall apart while only focusing on the O.

His head did get too big IMO from his successes. 

As an OC? Hell yeah. 

I'd like him as an OC, he's a bright offensive mind. But as an overall HC I don't think he's any better right now with 4 years experience than Canales is with 2 years. Sure, look at raw records if you want. But Canales inherited the biggest disaster team in the league while McDaniel inherited a very solid team that was coming off 10 and 9 win seasons, and he proceeded to do absolutely nothing with them aside from like a month and a half stretch one year where Tua was playing lights out. 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

I have a hard time believing that Canales will ever give up OC duties. I think he knows that his success as a HC is directly tied to his play calling. Why would you risk your job and put it in another person's hands? He is going to sink or swim based on his play calling. 

 

[Waldo]

12 minutes ago, t96 said:

I'd like him as an OC, he's a bright offensive mind. But as an overall HC I don't think he's any better right now with 4 years experience than Canales is with 2 years. Sure, look at raw records if you want. But Canales inherited the biggest disaster team in the league while McDaniel inherited a very solid team that was coming off 10 and 9 win seasons, and he proceeded to do absolutely nothing with them aside from like a month and a half stretch one year where Tua was playing lights out. 

I don't think either are very good HCs. One is a very good OC. 

McD has potential but his ego showed up hard with a tad of success, Flores D and his O was good for 2 years. I don't see any real potential from Canales. Even with a great QB he would still be the weak link from a lack of talent. McD does have tallent but he didn't put the work in and it showed. Ego, other personality failures, complacency? IDK but there is talent there. Not sure he will every really tap into it either.