Brandon Beane vs Dan Morgan

[Bear Hands]

What Beane has done to Allen has similarities to what we did with Cam. It’s interesting no doubt.

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Beane's roster is being carried by his quaterback.  Buffalo with an average QB isn't that great of a roster IMO.  He also got very lucky that Allen developed the way he did.  He is a unicorn when you look at his college tape vs his NFL.  It's way too early to tell on Morgan IMO.  

 

1 hour ago, Bear Hands said:

What Beane has done to Allen has similarities to what we did with Cam. It’s interesting no doubt.

I think you guys are vastly underestimating the power that McDermott had.

Terry Pegula, during his presser, said outright that Keon Coleman was NOT BEANE'S next choice. Beane gave into the coaching staff because it was a collaboration. That's what Pegula said. 

Now we'll likely never know which picks were Beane's and which picks were McDermott's, but suffice it to say that there is a reason McDermott was fired. Pegula basically said that he thought they had hit a wall with all the almost-wins-turned-losses, and he thought that they needed a change.

Pegula also addressed the narrative about Beane making some type of power play. He flat out said that had Beane done that, he would've been fired on the spot.

For anyone that's interested, it was a compelling interview to watch or listen to. 

 

Edited 54 minutes ago by TD alt

[frankw]

Could be McDermott pushed heavily for Coleman.

I've heard the "it was a collaborative decision" line after firing a coach before though. They may win the short term PR game with this decision but the onus is still on them to hire not just a new head coach but one that will get them not just into the playoffs but the Super Bowl.

[amcoolio]

Buffalo has a much worse roster than Carolina's (besides the QB, obviously). Swap BY and JA and the Panthers go 14-3 and the Bills go 4-13.

Two disgruntled AFC QB's in Burrow and Allen, but there is no way those teams let those players go. You never know, though. I'd easily give 3 first round picks for either

[strato]

That’s kind of amusing that they passed on McConkey too. Sister franchises. Carolina North. 

Edited 42 minutes ago by strato

[t96]

1 minute ago, TD alt said:

 

I think you guys are vastly underestimating the power that McDermott had.

Terry Pegula, during his presser, said outright that Keon Coleman was NOT BEANE'S next choice. Beane gave into the coaching staff because it was a collaboration. That's what Pegula said. 

Now we'll likely never know which picks were Beane's and which picks were McDermott's, but suffice it to say that there is a reason McDermott was fired. Pegula basically said that he thought they had hit a wall with all the almost-wins-turned-losses, and he thought that they needed a change.

Pegula also addressed the narrative about Beane making some type of power play. He flat out said that had Beane done that, he would've been fired on the spot.

For anyone that's interested, it was a compelling interview to watch or listen to. 

 

dawg, not sure if you follow hockey at all but Terry Pegula is by far the worst owner in the NHL and has run the Buffalo Sabres into the ground -- 14 straight years missing the playoffs. Buffalo media has reported extensively about how Pegula has run each team (mostly hands off with the Bills since McD and Josh arrived) and their observations are that the way Pegula has handled the McDermott and Beane situation has been an absolute disaster and very reminiscent of the Sabres disfunction. 

 

We don't really know the full story and never will but I do know that Pegula's comments in that press conference were completely asinine and came across to me as a terrible owner trying to come across like he knows what he's doing. Why in the world would you make those comments about an active player on the team, or air all this alleged behind the scenes dirty laundry in a press conference? Came across to me as a terrible owner being defensive about his stupid decisions.

 

There very much was a reason McDermott was fired and Beane was kept. Now, whether that reason had any basis in objective logic and reason is anyone's guess. Based on Pegula's history, I suspect his reasoning behind the decision was very flawed. This is very reminiscent of some of Tepper's clown decisions and comments from the worst moments of his time as our owner so far. 

[t96]

6 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Buffalo has a much worse roster than Carolina's (besides the QB, obviously). Swap BY and JA and the Panthers go 14-3 and the Bills go 4-13.

Two disgruntled AFC QB's in Burrow and Allen, but there is no way those teams let those players go. You never know, though. I'd easily give 3 first round picks for either

I think Josh Allen will eventually force his way out of Buffalo, and people will look back at this offseason as the reason why. Will take 2-3 years and I bet he goes west coast (maybe LA to replace Stafford...??) but I don't think he's gonna stay in Buffalo that much longer. Especially if they (predictably) struggle the next year or two.

[GoobyPls]

GM’s always have the ear of the owner.

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1 minute ago, t96 said:

dawg, not sure if you follow hockey at all but Terry Pegula is by far the worst owner in the NHL and has run the Buffalo Sabres into the ground -- 14 straight years missing the playoffs. Buffalo media has reported extensively about how Pegula has run each team (mostly hands off with the Bills since McD and Josh arrived) and their observations are that the way Pegula has handled the McDermott and Beane situation has been an absolute disaster and very reminiscent of the Sabres disfunction. 

 

We don't really know the full story and never will but I do know that Pegula's comments in that press conference were completely asinine and came across to me as a terrible owner trying to come across like he knows what he's doing. Why in the world would you make those comments about an active player on the team, or air all this alleged behind the scenes dirty laundry in a press conference? Came across to me as a terrible owner being defensive about his stupid decisions.

 

There very much was a reason McDermott was fired and Beane was kept. Now, whether that reason had any basis in objective logic and reason is anyone's guess. Based on Pegula's history, I suspect his reasoning behind the decision was very flawed. This is very reminiscent of some of Tepper's clown decisions and comments from the worst moments of his time as our owner so far. 

Well, I'm not "close" to that situation and really don't follow Hockey. But all I can say is is that I can't fault the man for thinking that a change was needed. He thought they had hit a wall. Sometimes a message gets stale and a  change of scenery is needed. It could be the best thing for McDermott and the best thing for the Bills in the end. 

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6 minutes ago, t96 said:

I think Josh Allen will eventually force his way out of Buffalo, and people will look back at this offseason as the reason why. Will take 2-3 years and I bet he goes west coast (maybe LA to replace Stafford...??) but I don't think he's gonna stay in Buffalo that much longer. Especially if they (predictably) struggle the next year or two.

I don't think he'll go anywhere if they hire Brian Daboll. 

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, t96 said:

I think Josh Allen will eventually force his way out of Buffalo, and people will look back at this offseason as the reason why. Will take 2-3 years and I bet he goes west coast (maybe LA to replace Stafford...??) but I don't think he's gonna stay in Buffalo that much longer. Especially if they (predictably) struggle the next year or two.

That isn't gonna be possible until 2028 at the earliest. He has a very freshly inked mega-deal. 

I do think he will eventually choose to go elsewhere. If they hire Brian Daboll, he will crater that entire franchise VERY quickly.

[Navy_football]

12 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Buffalo has a much worse roster than Carolina's (besides the QB, obviously). Swap BY and JA and the Panthers go 14-3 and the Bills go 4-13.

Two disgruntled AFC QB's in Burrow and Allen, but there is no way those teams let those players go. You never know, though. I'd easily give 3 first round picks for either

You could be right but which position groups are better in Carolina? Maybe secondary with the upgraded version of Mike Jackson? Maybe WRs at the end of the season?

DBs - CAR close

ILBs - BUF not close

DL - BUF close. CAR advantage interior DL. BUF advantage pass rushers

Receivers - CAR really close. CAR WR at the end of season with Jalen Coker - not before. BUF TEs by a large margin.

RBs - BUF not close

OL - BUF not close

[NAS]

After today’s disastrous press conference, McDermott looks like the hero and the owner (Pegula)  and Beane like a pure mess that nobody will want to work with.  

[Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands]

The internet has called BS on Beane not wanting Coleman

 

Edited 9 minutes ago by Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands