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Draft intel from ESPN’s Jordan Reid

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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Just now, La Pantera said:

Drafting a WR in the 1st 3 years in a row would be monumental stupid.

If it happens it will be surprising that Morgan continues to neglect the defensive side of the ball.  If it happens its seems like they are desperately trying to convince themselves that Bryce was the correct pick therefor justifying extending.  At least thats where my conspiracy brain immediately goes to whenever I read stuff like this.   I mean for fugs sake how many teams have 3 legit bad ass wr's?   Its most certainly under 5 and thats even stretching it

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23 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If it happens it will be surprising that Morgan continues to neglect the defensive side of the ball.  If it happens its seems like they are desperately trying to convince themselves that Bryce was the correct pick therefor justifying extending.  At least thats where my conspiracy brain immediately goes to whenever I read stuff like this.   I mean for fugs sake how many teams have 3 legit bad ass wr's?   Its most certainly under 5 and thats even stretching it

It shouldn't be surprising considering that part of the conditions of hire for Dave and Dan was that Bryce had to be the guy. No true camp competition year 1 to determine if he was even ready. No camp competition after he was benched. KP, one of the few QBs with worse seasons as a starter. 

Carolina's offensive players are never going to dominate the way Alabama did over their opponents, no matter how much we spend in picks or cap. Everyone is 5* now. Spending another pick on a WR is just indicative of a bigger problem. Dave Tepper is sold 100% hook line and sinker on Bryce and until he fails on a massive scale, he's our guy. 

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How was David Newton scooped?  He is usually breaking news and providing cutting-edge insights.  Remember when he took that picture of the moon between his fingers so it looked like a glow booger?  That kind of stuff is what we need.  And we need a guy who reposts Ian Rappaport and Joe Person.  

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46 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If it happens it will be surprising that Morgan continues to neglect the defensive side of the ball.  If it happens its seems like they are desperately trying to convince themselves that Bryce was the correct pick therefor justifying extending.  At least thats where my conspiracy brain immediately goes to whenever I read stuff like this.   I mean for fugs sake how many teams have 3 legit bad ass wr's?   Its most certainly under 5 and thats even stretching it

Who knows what is being said behind closed doors, but they sure seem determined to make the offense special to overcome a short, mediocre qb on his good days.  

He would argue that he is focused on Offense in the draft because he focused on 2 studs in free agency at LB and edge.  

We are not drafting a DT of S in round 1.  I think we are drafting Concepcion or Cooper--WR.  Delp?  Probably a trade up on day 2 to the back half of the third round--maybe early fourth.  A good blocker for his size and a tall (6-5) TE who runs a 4.49.  I see the reason they love him.

We will also be grabbing another LB in round 2, if I guess correctly.  Bisontis (C) could be the second round pick, however.  

Maybe a S or DT in round 3?

Morgan probably feels that he has plugged the holes with 2 free agent OTs--so don't expect one early.  Watch for players like Travis Burke in round 7. (he played at Gardner Webb, by the way) C?  Maybe a short armed T or G if Bisontis is not taken earlier.

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36 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If it happens it will be surprising that Morgan continues to neglect the defensive side of the ball.  If it happens its seems like they are desperately trying to convince themselves that Bryce was the correct pick therefor justifying extending.  At least thats where my conspiracy brain immediately goes to whenever I read stuff like this.   I mean for fugs sake how many teams have 3 legit bad ass wr's?   Its most certainly under 5 and thats even stretching it

I mean, on some level I get it. They want to know 100% for sure before they either extend Bryce or move on. I imagine the logic behind it is that if they add another weapon and Bryce doesn't show he can be a franchise guy then we'll be in great position to draft another QB and slot him into an offense with 3 legit WRs, a good TE and a solid OL.

I don't think it's as simple as the front office trying to "justify" an extension for Bryce. If they're not sold on Bryce then they know paying him big money is a recipe for disaster and at that point just trying to please Tepper isn't going to save their jobs in the long run if they're stuck with a QB we can't win with.

I think Morgan and Canales are just as uncertain on Bryce as the fanbase is. They see his limitations, but they also see flashes where he has managed to overcome them and look like a potential franchise QB. I think they're trying to avoid Bryce becoming the next Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold and want to do everything they can to give him what he needs to succeed so that if/when the time comes to move on from him nobody can say "the Panthers were the problem" if he goes elsewhere and succeeds.

And if we do end up having to bring in another QB in a year or two if nothing else they will have the pieces around them as well and can hit the ground running.

I also think drafting a WR in the 1st this year would be as much about missing on XL as it would trying to justify extending Bryce. Personally I think we need to just count ourselves lucky to have landed a legit #2 WR as an UDFA in Coker (which helps negate the miss on XL in the 1st) and try to find a good slot receiver in free agency or the 2nd-4th rounds while focusing on defense and the OL in the 1st round.

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