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List of top players not drafted

MHS831

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MHS831 Grand Master

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I found this to be interesting because it reveals how little we actually know about the NFL talent evaluation process.   For example, how many of you (me too) were screaming for James Hurst in the fourth round?  Fifth round?  Sixth round?  I was--all three rounds.  I would have been happy to hear, "The Carolina Panthers select James Hurst, Tackle, North Carolina" in the third round.

 

http://www.gbnreport.com/updatedtop100.html

 

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Yep.  That's why I do find it funny when all the armchair GMs go crazy about value, BPA, needs, ects around here.

 

Sure it's fun to talk about, and attempt to rationalize what GMs and stuff do.  But it's their job, and they want to stay employed so naturally, they are going to do things differently, and probably better than us.

 

I was also hoping for Hurst.   Seemed like a good risk if he could come back from his injury.

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Only found 3 of ours on the list  

 

94. CB Carrington Byndom Texas

 

108. G Andrew Norwell Ohio State

 

118. LB Denicos Allen Michigan State

 

N/A WR Philly Brown Ohio State

 

N/A LB Adarius Glanton Florida Atlantic 

 

N/A WR Marcus Lucas Missouri

 

N/A RB Darrin Reaves Alabama-Birmingham 

 

N/A DT Shaq Rowell West Virginia

 

N/A C Jared Wheeler Miami (Fla.) 

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Why aren't these valued players being drafted?

Coaches and GMs value other players over them?

Oh no! Say it ain't so!!!!!

I bet we can assemble a team with all these guys that'll win the Superbowl!!!!

No? Well damnit all to hell!!!!!!!

 

I know a few of the hyped guys that were constantly being mocked by "professional media" and fans in 3-6 round (Tiny Richardson, James Hurst, Brandon Coleman etc..) were not drafted at all.  The hypocritical part of it is that the same media that mocked these guys to us are trashing our draft because we failed to take advantage of need.  I bet had we drafted Hurst in the 4th and Coleman in the 5th there would be praise and A's all around.  This despite the fact that the two guys we pick up would not have even been on any of the 31 teams boards. 

 

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Yep.  That's why I do find it funny when all the armchair GMs go crazy about value, BPA, needs, etc around here.

 

Sure it's fun to talk about, and attempt to rationalize what GMs and stuff do.  But it's their job, and they want to stay employed so naturally, they are going to do things differently, and probably better than us.

 

I was also hoping for Hurst.   Seemed like a good risk if he could come back from his injury.

 

Most of the people whining on here right now do so because they judge the quality of our draft by whether or not we picked somebody they've heard of or watched on YouTube.

 

You've got some who talk about their research as if reading what media guys and draftniks had to say was equivalent to knowing what professional scouts and personnel men think.  It isn't.  The actual draft shows us that on an annual basis.

 

Mind you, it's not to say that the media guys never have good opinions, they often do.  People should understand that those guys aren't professional scouts.  They don't work for NFL teams so their info is always going to be at least somewhat limited.

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I found this to be interesting because it reveals how little we actually know about the NFL talent evaluation process.   For example, how many of you (me too) were screaming for James Hurst in the fourth round?  Fifth round?  Sixth round?  I was--all three rounds.  I would have been happy to hear, "The Carolina Panthers select James Hurst, Tackle, North Carolina" in the third round.

 

http://www.gbnreport.com/updatedtop100.html

 

Hurst is hurt, dude. Simple as that. Ozzie Newsome picked him up just as soon as he could.  Hurt players go undrafted every year. Most times GMs just don't want to wait while they are shopping like kids in a candy store, plus they gigure that they can do what Newsome did.  You can get burned investing in a hurt player if they take a longer time to heal than you had planned (I'm thinking this what happened to the 9ers and Marcus lattimore). Hurst has a good prognosis however, and I'll bet that in the long term Ozzie got a steal (as Hurst is a smart guy who had a round 2-3 grade even before he got hurt).

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Hurst is hurt, dude. Simple as that. Ozzie Newsome picked him up just as soon as he could.  Hurt players go undrafted every year. Most times GMs just don't want to wait while they are shopping like kids in a candy store, plus they gigure that they can do what Newsome did.  You can get burned investing in a hurt player if they take a longer time to heal than you had planned (I'm thinking this what happened to the 9ers and Marcus lattimore). Hurst has a good prognosis however, and I'll bet that in the long term Ozzie got a steal (as Hurst is a smart guy who had a round 2-3 grade even before he got hurt).

 

But good hurt players get drafted and many times highly. Guys with major injuries who could potentially never rehab like Lattimore get drafted in the 4th.  Hurst's injury is as minor as it gets. It's like 4 weeks in a walking cast. I had that injury and was back Snowboarding in 5 weeks.

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But good hurt players get drafted and many times highly. Guys with major injuries who could potentially never rehab like Lattimore get drafted in the 4th. Hurst's injury is as minor as it gets. It's like 4 weeks in a walking cast. I had that injury and was back Snowboarding in 5 weeks.

Lol, he broke his leg dude. It's not "as minor as it gets". Let's not go overboard here.

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Lol, he broke his leg dude. It's not "as minor as it gets". Let's not go overboard here.

He broke his fibula. I broke my fibula and hike 3 miles on it back to the car. It's a non weight carrying bone. TO broke his in December and played in the Super Bowl. Broken but not displaced fibulas heal quickly and are nothing like a sprain.

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