A Small Theory

[AceBoogie]

Actually...almost all of the "what ifs" you named are cap related.

I don't think they are if you don't tag Hardy. That 13 million could have solved a lot of problems this year.

[Your GFs favorite huddler]

I have no clue what to think anymore, I want to believe Gman is simply a victim of a cap strapped team and an uneventful market but the lack of anything that can be considered a reasonable move this year has led me to doubt my own faith in him. And if Shula and, I'm seriously starting to hope Rivera, aren't canned IMMEDIATELY following the season I will have effectively lost faith in him as a decision maker. There's no doubt the dude has an eye for talent but if we aren't stock piling draft picks or actually developing players we bring in, them some moves have to be made in free agency that benefit the team

[RoaringRiot]

I don't think they are if you don't tag Hardy. That 13 million could have solved a lot of problems this year.

I would argue that if Hardy was playing we would be a much better team. The OL would still be a mess but I think we would be in a totally different situation. We don't know there was no intention to sign him longterm. In fact, all I've ever seen/heard was that they wanted to.

[Your GFs favorite huddler]

The man effectively extinguished all the momentum gained from last year, killed the on the fence fans we were starting to gain and is destroying our franchise QBs will in front of us! This season is almost more painful to watch than the Jimmeh debacle because we stood to gain so much, the division could have been won 3 weeks ago had there been any sort of consistency from last year

[teeray]

I don't think they are if you don't tag Hardy. That 13 million could have solved a lot of problems this year.

 

Nothing we did was about this year really.  It is about the future.

 

Even though we tagged Hardy it was just essentially a one year contract.  It wasn't a multi year contract that has cap ramifications past this season.  Keep in mind that we have Cam and Kuechly extensions coming up over next two seasons.  We had to reserve cap space for those two

 

We had to go discount window because of our long term cap mess.  Last year we hit homeruns with Mitchell, Ginn, Mikkell, and others.

 

You lose all those guys, plus your starting pro bowl LT, plus Munnerlyn and we had to replace them without committing to long term high dollar contracts.  With the price and length we were offering it was going to be impossible to get same value, and we did sign two safeties that are very flawed but had both played in Pro Bowls.

 

I think he did the best he could.  It is hard to evaluate him until we get out of this cap mess and he has a few more drafts (and possibly a coaching hire) under his unusually high on his waist belt

 

Because of cap hell and two future stars you want to lock up long term over the next two years

 

[CRA]

I've heard countless times, not only on this forum, that Dave Gettleman wasn't building his team right to sabotage Cam Newton.

However likely or unlikely, I have a thought that goes in a similar direction. Perhaps that Dave Gettleman DID in fact sabotage this team this year, BUT it wasn't intended to make Cam Newton look bad. Instead, what if Dave Gettleman had intentionally set Ron Rivera up to fail so that he could bring in his own coach next season?

Dave could of simply not extended Ron....and fired him after this year like it should of been.

Dave has set the table for us to have to consider keeping him

[Diehardpanther02]

God? Is that you?

[rmoneyg35]

What's with all these crazy conspiracy theories?

What's next Rivera or Shula being blamed for the JFK assassination attempt?

[Chaos]

Wal-Mart has a sale on tin foil

[Fox007]

I don't know why people can't accept that Dave made some bad decisions this offseason that have absolutely nothing to do with Marty Hurney. If you're so strapped for cash then why do you give a troubled defensive end 13 million when you have no plans to sign him long term? Why do you not being in more tackles to compete for the job with Byron and Nate? Why do you let your free agents test the market without trying to lock them up for possibly less than what they got on the market? Why do you release your veteran WR (who you're still paying) and give your QB all new targets coming off of ankle surgery? Everything isn't about "Marty Hurney" and "cap hell". Gettleman made some bad football decisions this offseason and you're seeing the result of that.

 

Go back read what I said or don't reply as if you haven't.

 

But most of the issues stem from Hurney's mess...we've established he didn't hit home runs on his same style discount FAs like he did last year....sooooo...k?

 

Also none of those guys we lost save for Lafell are doing anything of note on their team and are showing why we didn't pay them.

[teeray]

When you go dumpster diving most of the stuff in there is garbage.

 

We got garbage.  Last year we got lucky

[TheRumGone]

I don't think they are if you don't tag Hardy. That 13 million could have solved a lot of problems this year.

Next decent tackle was 15 million guaranteed and that dude sucks dick.

We are off the hook for hardy after thiis year. Maybe we could have signed 2 or 3 or 4 one year contracts like we did the rest of our signings that would have equaled 13 mill against the cap. It was a transition bridge that could have kept us competitive if hardy wasn't a fuging retard

[TheRumGone]

Dave could of simply not extended Ron....and fired him after this year like it should of been.

Dave has set the table for us to have to consider keeping him

This is my only gripe but not extending the coach of the year last year a ton of ppl would have went crazy on here too

[Mother Grabber]

nobody is sabotaging anybody.  we are in the middle of a purge and rebuild.