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So who really is the best player in the league?

Mr. Scot

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PhillyB Grand Master

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most dominant at his position to the point where it's hard for anyone else to come close? jj watt, richard sherman, gronk, calvin johnson.

does the most for his team? aaron rodgers, tom brady, calvin johnson, jj watt, cam newton, luke keuchly.

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JJ Watt can be taken out of the play too often to be considered the best. 

 

It's a toss up between Cam and Arod. Yea I said Cam but he backs it up with the ability to create with is legs and make pinpoint throws. Arod right now is a savvy vet that has the best arm in the league. 

 

On defense its Kam Chancellor. Dude creates turnovers, stops the run, plays the pass like a DB, he is by far the best Safety. Sherman gets all the media but it's Chancellor who really is making that team work.

It's Earl Thomas that makes that secondary work.

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You think Graham is better than Gronk? Not saying you are wrong but I don't think it Graham separates himself enough (if at all) as the best at his position.  

I think graham is a bigger problem thank gronk as a matchup with a bad qb Graham would make his qb look the best.
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I think graham is a bigger problem thank gronk as a matchup with a bad qb Graham would make his qb look the best.

I don't agree there, but just for argument's sake even if that were true, Gronk regardless is still one of the biggest mismatches in the league.  Gronk has some pretty crazy athleticism for a guy his size, he's an absolute handful to bring down, and he's nearly uncoverable by LBers due to his size, strength, and ability to make the contested catches.

There's also the fact of the matter that he's arguably also the best (or one of them) blocking TE in the league too... while Graham is easily one of the worst.  Gronk is the complete package, and as good as Graham is, there's no way he's a better overall TE than Gronk.

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I don't agree there, but just for argument's sake even if that were true, Gronk regardless is still one of the biggest mismatches in the league.  Gronk has some pretty crazy athleticism for a guy his size, he's an absolute handful to bring down, and he's nearly uncoverable by LBers due to his size, strength, and ability to make the contested catches.

There's also the fact of the matter that he's arguably also the best (or one of them) blocking TE in the league too... while Graham is easily one of the worst.  Gronk is the complete package, and as good as Graham is, there's no way he's a better overall TE than Gronk.

Definitely agree about blocking but sadly this day and age its only a bonus if an athletic tight end can block. For arguments sake I still believe them to be 1a and 1b so going back to my original post I suppose that would make a-rod #1
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It's Calvin Johnson, followed closely by Aaron Rodgers and Gronk. JJ Watt is a media creation.

I don't understand why people keep saying that? Is it because he is white? Lol. Dude is flat out the most dominant defensive player in recent memory and does stuff no one dreams of doing,

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