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Coach on Robert Griffin III: 'There's no coming back. He is done'


Kevin Greene

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n 2012, the Redskins captured the NFC East crown and Robert Griffin III took the NFL by storm.

A nasty ACL tear ended his 2012 season, and RG3 hasn't been the same player since.

ESPN Insider NFL columnist Mike Sandoreleased the newest edition of his "Quarterback Tier" project in which 35 league insiders rate all 32 starting quarterbacks from 1-5 according to their "tier."

Griffin, coming off a season where he went 2-5 in seven starts, was given a 3.91 rating. He finished 28th in the overall ratings, and one offensive coach relegated him to the fifth and lowest tier, which per the story was "reserved for the very worst."

"Five, and there's no coming back. He is done," the offensive coach said. "The reason is, the injury slowed his legs, and his ego will not allow him to hit rock bottom and actually grind his way back up the right way."

Another league source supported the notion.

"To get better in this league, you have to have a degree of humility," a personnel director said. "Griffin sees himself like Peyton [Manning], in that light. When he looks in the mirror, he is seeing things that everybody else is not seeing. That is why I was surprised when they gave him the fifth-year [option] and said it was an easy decision."

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/coach-robert-griffin-iii-theres-no-coming-back-he-done?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo 

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The biggest problem was all of the undeserved hype he received. He was supposed to be the QB that played well to justify the media's bias. They bashed the hell out of Cam and then put RG3 on a pedestal. Then their predictions and accusations turned out to be the complete opposite of what they were stating. RG3 never really looked like an NFL QB. For some reason almost all analysts forget that the best way to tell if a QB is going to succeed is in their second year. That's when teams have film on that QB and if that QB fails then he's most likely not going to be that good. However, he's just always looked awkward. 

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For some reason I like seeing teams fail when they trade away their future on one pick.  It brings me much joy.

Yup. It's been especially rich here in DC. They have held out hope for sooo long that he was just one more off-season away from returning to form of "the best rookie year in the history of the NFL." And each year, their confidence slowly chipping away.

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he had this golden aura of hype around him coming into the league and there really was this dynamic played up that he was the hardworking, humble, understated guy who was the anti-cam newton in every way.  of course we all know by now that the pitch and catch west coast system he ran as a rookie made him look a million times better than he really was. 

people were wowed by his completion percentage and TD/INT ratio but if you actually watched him in the pocket it was clear that he had one or two reads tops on most of his dropbacks.  he'd take his drop, you'd see him lock on to one side of the field, and the ball would be out of his hands pretty much the moment he planted his back foot.  if you revisit his game against us in 2012 you can see what happens when those shallow lanes get jammed up and his field of vision is disrupted by a big d-line.  he would turn into a total spaz in the pocket and pretty much just dance into a sack or hit.  even colin kaepernick might be more sound in the pocket and more adept at reading coverages than robert griffin is.

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Griffin was never that good to begin with. His rookie season was vastly overrated.

2012: 4,015 Yd, 27 Td, 14 Tov

Not that impressive. 

Everyone made a big deal out of it because he completed 65% of his passes with 20 TD 5 Int and ran for over 800 yards.

The problem is he only threw for 3,200 yards, which is mediocre. And his Cmp % and Int numbers were so great because the majority of his passes were screens or RB dump offs. Seriously, the majority of his passes were within 5 Yd of the line of scrimmage. It was a gimmick, he couldn't throw from the pocket or make reads. His passes were either a WR screen or quick slant to a WR/TE. And if that primary slant wasn't open he'd immediately throw a dump off to the RB or take off running. 

And as a runner he couldn't hang onto the ball to save his life, he had 12 fumbles (9 lost). He also took nasty hits due to his small frame and awkward running. And for whatever reason he was too stupid to avoid any contact.

Luck and RG3 were hyped to no end, but Cam had the best rookie season. He did the most with the least amount of help.

Cam: 4,784 Yd, 35 Td, 19 Tov

Luck: 4,629 Yd, 28 Td, 19 Tov

RG3: 4,015 Yd, 27 Td, 14 Tov

 

 

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