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Guess who's dropping passes and guess who's making it look easy


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Jesus christ guys, they don't know the playbook as well as the current starters.. That's probably what's holding them back the most. Unless we run the same passing plays each series, which is something you don't do in the NFL, you won't see them until probably after the bye week. 

 

I'm willing to give Brown another week, if he continues to suck it up, well then bring in Bersin. Dude knows the playbook and he has sure hands..

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I reviewed all the passing data for the Jags game.

It's interesting.  Ginn actually had a really rough day, catching only 2 of 8.  (Doesn't mean he dropped 6, some of those may have been inaccurate throws, I've not reviewed the film, I'm just going by the gamebook).  But in spite of only catching 2 for 8, his 2 catches were for really nice gains of 17 and 37 yards, meaning he led the receiver stats in yards.

I notice Ginn wasn't on that video.  He's now the one I'd most like to see improve his catches.  He's obviously staying on the roster as our returner.  If he can really turn it up at WR, that would be really valuable.  I'd not cry if Philly lost his roster spot to Norwood, Bersin, or perhaps Webb as long as we still have the deep / speed threat in Ginn and Ginn is catching well.

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Again I agree with the principle but I think you have RP's opinion a little too high.

This remains a RR call and (IMO) he will ride to the edge of the universe and back with the same tired lineup he knows rather than make the necessary changes.

I've stated my opinion of Rivera as a talent evaluator on here before.

True, but if Corey was a FA, do you honestly believe anyone would pick him up if he practices and plays like he has?

No, I don't.

But to be fair, every team has receivers they like whom nobody else would likely pick up.

Unfortunately, ours just happens to be starting.

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Jesus christ guys, they don't know the playbook as well as the current starters.. That's probably what's holding them back the most. Unless we run the same passing plays each series, which is something you don't do in the NFL, you won't see them until probably after the bye week. 

 

I'm willing to give Brown another week, if he continues to suck it up, well then bring in Bersin. Dude knows the playbook and he has sure hands..

we don't run the NE offense

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no, has hasn't displayed questionable hands for just one game.  That pretty much is what he has always shown.  Hence, the ugly catches last year, poor hands all preseason, etc.

When you have that kind of speed....there is a reason why you go undrafted....it is b/c you are missing the other components.

We don't need to be thrusting Philly and Bersin onto the field.  One can be active on gameday for insurance/depth.   We need be looking at our other options....they were drafted players b/c simply are more talented all around football players.  

I didnt mean to quote your post I was trying to quote a post about why funchess wasn't getting 20 looks a game.. my bad.

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Its discouraging but I believe we could be overanalyzing the few minutes the press is allowed to see. I honestly dont 100% trust that the clips weren't chosen for maximum affect. Were other receivers drops left out? Its hard to make an honest judgement from these few clips wiyhout sering the practice in its entirety.

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And yet some fantasy sites have Brown as a top 10 We this week, it's like they don't even watch the Panthers. I honestly believe this is Funchess breakout game, 9 receptions, 125 yards, 2 touchdowns.

Brown's mom has a fantasy football website?

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...why isn't Funchess our #1 receiver, getting 20 targets a game?

Because the team only passed about 28 times a game to begin with. There isnt a receiver in the league who comes close to 20 targets a game. Demarius Thomas lead the league last year with 11.5 targets a game.

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