About that Jameis touchdown pass...

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

Eventually, "holding" won't be a penalty for offensive lineman.

[JJman Returns]

Eventually, "holding" won't be a penalty for offensive lineman.

It happens about every play so they need to change the definition of holding and imo make it a 5 yard penalty 

[PntherPryd]

Great picture, really surprised there are not more.  

One of the plays that concerned me the most was the Ted Ginn TD grab that was ruled a touchdown by the line judge that was literally in the best position possible to make the call.  But the back judge came running over to overrule him.  Apparently the line judge was one of the 22 new refs this year according to broadcast crew.  WTF? 

If you don't trust the new guys to make the right call then don't have them on the field!  We had to use a challenge to get that call, which, with the way that game was called, losing a challenge could have been a huge game-changer.  And it wasn't necessary either.  Since all scoring plays are reviewed there was absolutely no reason for that back judge to get involved as it was going to be reviewed anyway.  

I would say that back judge needs to be downgraded but that would probably stick him on the team that works the Panthers game every week with Ronde.

[Jeremy Igo]

It happens about every play so they need to change the definition of holding and imo make it a 5 yard penalty 

Grabbing a facemask and turning a head doesn't happen on every play. This was a blatant penalty. 

[PandaPancake]

Ealy isnt old enough to get that call.

l think Houlci just threw a flag on you

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

Grabbing a facemask and turning a head doesn't happen on every play. This was a blatant penalty. 

Sorry, conversation kinda got away from the actual penalty in the pic :P

[KSpan]

Clearly a bust.  Top-flight DEs immediately get opponents' hands off of their facemask.

[JJman Returns]

Grabbing a facemask and turning a head doesn't happen on every play. This was a blatant penalty. 

Ok? That's why I was talking about holding. Not a facemask penalty...

[Seltzer]

Grabbing a facemask and turning a head doesn't happen on every play. This was a blatant penalty. 

Exactly.  NFL refs are making $173,000 (on average- veteran guys making $200,000+) for part time work.  Most of these guys have other lucrative careers (lawyers, etc.) in addition to their part-time gig on Sunday.  

They've got one job to do- know, interpret, and apply the rules accurately and consistently.  Unacceptable and ridiculous that NFL refs are paid this much and miss so many calls.  Borderline players can lose a job for a blown assignment (and do all the time).  Same standards should apply to refs.  The NFL is a multi-billion dollar enterprise.  

[uncfan888]

At the very least,  hands to the face..  But he is wrenching on that face mask, you can see the helmet turned

[PandaPancake]

Clearly a bust.  Top-flight DEs immediately get opponents' hands off of their facemask.

Luke switched his can of spray oil with a can of stickum. He's quite the jokester

[Cary Kollins]

 

...and it's not just us, I saw several obvious, blatant holds against the Lions last night that allowed Wilson to escape the pocket that weren't called.

At one point two Seahawks were holding a Lions player, one in front and one in back, as he pursued Wilson.

One of the most egregious holds I've seen and it wasn't called.

[Chaos]

This is nothing compared to the no-calls coming in Seattle.

[O-Ther]

This is nothing compared to the no-calls coming in Seattle.

No-calls AND the picked up flags like the defensive pass interference on Conte in 2nd quarter. We're on our own 25, 2nd and 10, long bomb to Philly, Conte hanging on tight, one ref throws a flag, others come over and tell him to pick it up. Think it was the same two that called Ginn's TD correctly then screwed it up.