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Why Weddle won't be a Panther

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29 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I am sure Weddle wants to get paid just like every player in the league.  On the other hand Weddle is 31 which is old for a safety and he is not the best in the league.  If money is the only thing then it is true someone else could over pay for him.  But if he wants to pay for a contender as he said he did, then the market gets much smaller as will his ability to dictate his price.

Not really that old for a safety actually.   

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I like Boston, and think he could be decent. But anyone thinking he's the no questions asked starter....I just don't understand that. He's been up and down since he was in college, still makes dumb penalties, and hasn't had enough playing time to show he can be a starter. 

He's done good things, he's done bad things. Maybe he just needs playing time, but personally, I'd rather upgrade the position now (or at least attempt to) instead of going into the year with a what-if. 

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Raiders signed CB Sean Smith to a 4 yr $40M with $20M of it being guaranteed. This according to Sporting News and NFL Network's Ian Rapport. So does that take Eric Waddle out of play for the Raiders? I believe Gipson, Waddle and Smith were the 3 that the Raiders were targeting.

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1 hour ago, ttiger2004 said:

Raiders signed CB Sean Smith to a 4 yr $40M with $20M of it being guaranteed. This according to Sporting News and NFL Network's Ian Rapport. So does that take Eric Waddle out of play for the Raiders? I believe Gipson, Waddle and Smith were the 3 that the Raiders were targeting.

Raiders need to replace like their entire secondary. Smith is a CB so they might be done at that position since they like Amerson, but they really need a safety or two. They will certainly be in on Weddle.

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1 hour ago, Bartin said:

Raiders need to replace like their entire secondary. Smith is a CB so they might be done at that position since they like Amerson, but they really need a safety or two. They will certainly be in on Weddle.

I get these CB and FS/SS mixed up. Apparently Weddle wants to stay out West. Yet he wants to play for a team that has a chance for a ring, well Oakland is a few years away, they're getting there. LA Rams, well, won't go there. SF, just wont go there. He won't go back to SD unless it's a last resort, so it leaves Arizona or Seattle, as possible contenders but they're pretty well set at that position. Then again, what do I know. I'm guessing.

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4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Signing Weddle means Coleman moves to SS, I would guess.  I agree with your scenarios, the point being we really don't know what they feel about Boston.  Maybe he is just a special teamer and depth--I have said that before.  However, if they are grooming him to play (as is the case for most players entering year 3--the "make or break" year) and they like Marlowe as they say they do, then Weddle, a player whose best days are probably behind him, would impede that development.  I am not going to assume that the addition of Weddle means a Super Bowl.  He would be an upgrade, but the money used elsewhere might be more beneficial. 

I agree with what you are saying, and if we do not feel Boston/Marlowe have what it takes, then sure. I operate on the assumption that young players on the roster are in the plans to become starters in time.

The difficult part is knowing what they think of Boston and Marlowe.  We're all just speculating, and the thing about this team is that they don't reveal anything about what they really think until they're ready to do something.  Marlowe's potential really intrigues me, but the question is when will he be ready for a significant role.  He looks to have the skillset and temperament to develop into a good Safety for us.  And I saw some good and some bad from Boston.  I think he can be a solid starter, but again, is he ready for a significant role, or just a reserve.

If the team feels that neither of them are ready to be a starter yet, then bringing in a guy like Weddle makes some sense.  Both he and Coleman can play both FS and SS, so they should be able to coexist quite well in our defense.  And at 31, Weddle probably won't cost as much as many think (still not cheap, though), and he probably has a good 2-3 years left.  But again, it all comes down to what the team think of Boston's and Marlowe's immediate readiness to start and be a major contributor...and will Weddle even be available when Gettleman is ready to make a move.     

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4 hours ago, Zaximus said:

Not really that old for a safety actually.   

 

Most times safeties are more involved in hitting, tackling and being physical which takes a bigger toll on their body.  So 31 can actually be pretty old for a safety if they have had a lot of wear and tear.  Much like a fullback who is constantly being a battering ram against much bigger guys.  It takes a bigger toll on some positions than others.  The only thing in his favor is that a FS isnt as physical as a SS but that depends on the team and defensive philosophy.

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39 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Maybe he won't be a Panther, maybe he will. I've always found it bizarre to argue about whether something will happen that you have no control over or investment in.

Half the people here want to be a combination of Jim Rome and Miss Cleo.

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48 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

 

Most times safeties are more involved in hitting, tackling and being physical which takes a bigger toll on their body.  So 31 can actually be pretty old for a safety if they have had a lot of wear and tear.  Much like a fullback who is constantly being a battering ram against much bigger guys.  It takes a bigger toll on some positions than others.  The only thing in his favor is that a FS isnt as physical as a SS but that depends on the team and defensive philosophy.

Coleman played more snaps and had more tackles at FS than any of our defensive backs so like you said it depends on the situation.

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