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Did Delaire Just Take A Shot At Cam?

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panthers55 Grand Master

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27 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

I think the initial onus to extend an olive branch starts with the powerful and not the powerless. So while the black community has work to do on a lot of fronts, the system and those who are it's agents (cops, politicians, etc) have to humble themselves and show change and acknowledge the depth and complexity of the issues.

I agree that when they are wrong or an injustice occurs then justice needs to be done. But what if there isn't agreement on what is justice. If the cops say their actions were justified and the black community says it isnt and wants to riot, what trumps what when the evidence isn't overwhelming one-sided. Given there is mistrust on both sides it just foments rather than heals. Like last night when the peaceful rally turns violent when supposedly  a black man gets killed by a drive by shooter who was black and no police are involved. Is anyone going to admit wrongdoing for the damage to police cars, property or the dozens of police who are supposedly hurt. How about the photographer who said several black men tried to throw him into a fire they started. Violence begets violence and both sides blame the other.  Blacks say they are targeted. Police say black suspects are more dangerous since they commit 60% of the cop shootings and resist arrest at a much higher rate than white suspects so they are wary and may jump the gun too quickly.  Both sides have facts to back them up but when only one side is held accountable it causes mistrust on both sides. Neither side is blameless and solutions need to recognize fault on both sides. That is what Cam was talking about.

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6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I agree that when they are wrong or an injustice occurs then justice needs to be done. But what if there isn't agreement on what is justice. If the cops say their actions were justified and the black community says it isnt and wants to riot, what trumps what when the evidence isn't overwhelming one-sided. Given there is mistrust on both sides it just foments rather than heals. Like last night when the peaceful rally turns violent when supposedly  a black man gets killed by a drive by shooter who was black and no police are involved. Is anyone going to admit wrongdoing for the damage to police cars, property or the dozens of police who are supposedly hurt. How about the photographer who said several black men tried to throw him into a fire they started. Violence begets violence and both sides blame the other.  Blacks say they are targeted. Police say black suspects are more dangerous since they commit 60% of the cop shootings and resist arrest at a much higher rate than white suspects so they are wary and may jump the gun too quickly.  Both sides have facts to back them up but when only one side is held accountable it causes mistrust on both sides. Neither side is blameless and solutions need to recognize fault on both sides. That is what Cam was talking about.

A big part of the problem, and it's expressed often, is that many people feel that there is no accountability for police when they are wrong. That is a very real perception for a lot of people, partially based on facts and partially based on emotion. People need to see change and accountability before attitudes and perceptions will start to change.

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luke nukem Newbie

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I take it as Delaire is a fringe player on our roster who would like to exercise his first amendment rights by taking a knee for the national anthem, but can't due to the fact that the organization all but said if you do that you will be cut. Sucks for guys like him, but when your livelihood is at stake, sometimes you gotta do poo you don't agree with.

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39 minutes ago, arbnranger said:

Could be, good points. We may never know but still interesting.  I don't have any social media other than the Huddle so I do miss a lot of the other stuff...and it's intentional and I'm happy about it. Ha

 

Welcome to the club brother. Since I got my first cell phone around 98, I have had 3, yup 3 phones. That first phone was an Ericson piece of crap, that lasted for years. The last 2 were Verizon flip phones. I just don't see the need for one of those Smart Phone thingys. The lap top has the twitter on it, which I have never felt the need to learn. I guess I just have never felt the need to upgrade. I need to talk to someone, I call them. I will respond to a text, but rarely send one. Hellz, most times, I got nothing to say to people anyway. People tend to irritate me. I don't need no modern technology to ignore people. I can do just fine with my ol' reliable flip phone.

 

Not sure whence that came. But it felt rather calming getting it out.  

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3 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I can relate to that kid, it was similar for me growing up. A black kid in to things my black peers werent. I was scrutinized for it too.

Ignorance creates outcasts, my family of rednecks never understood my proclivity with computers or willingness to have black and gay friends. Probably why I ignore half of them.

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Jmac Grand Master

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Here is a novel idea. Just leave sports to sports  and social issues to social issues. If a player has a stance to take, do it on your own time. There are plenty of forums on the net where one can voice opinions. Don"t drag the whole team along with you. Many might not feel the same way.....only causes problems.

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