Considering Franchise History, Who Has It Worse? Browns Fans or Panthers Fans?

[Proudiddy]

This isn't me stating that it is worse as a Panthers fan, this is just to have a discussion.  Some of you are getting upset to even make the comparison, but I think there is a valid discussion to be had.  I view it much like the long debated "would you rather be blown out in a loss, or lose in the last seconds?"  Essentially, in this equivalent, the Browns are being blown out, and we are losing at the last second, but it one better than the other?

And I think the discussion is worth having because for all of the reasons people have mentioned as to why "it isn't even close," because we've had great players and reached two Superbowls...  we've also had 1-15, and 2-14, and multiple mediocre seasons immediately before and after those successful runs, and we have historically let many of our star players go until Cam and Luke.  We have never had sustained success, and it's arguable that we are the only franchise in the league (possibly in all of professional sports), to have such a consistent history of being inconsistent.  So, is it really that great of an accomplishment, when you immediately take three steps back for every step you take forward?  That, in a nutshell, is our history as a franchise, whereas the Browns just suck and know they suck, with no hope of getting better.  Again, I go back to the, "would you rather be blown out in a loss, or lose in the last seconds?" argument.

[Proudiddy]

8 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Actually I would say being a Buffalo fan is the worst thing in the league b/c it's a combination of high hopes but still knowing you suck. Let's look at the reasons.

1. The franchise has maybe 1 AFL championship? Otherwise the 60s, 70s, 80s, 00s, and 10s are forgettable.

2. 4 Super Bowl appearances without a win is what your franchise rests its laurels on.

3. A ridiculous fan base that is over the top because the team is such garbage, but they have undying love.

4. Threatened to become first Canadian NFL team.

5. The most memorable Buffalo Bill ended up being a murderer (OJ Simpson). Seriously imagine looking up to him and then he brutally murders his wife and others.

6. They are based out of Buffalo, NY, literally the most depressing town in the United States.

7. The last time they made the playoffs was the year that the Browns came back.

8. Drew Bledsoe is their best QB since Jim Kelly. He was ultimately beat out by JP Losman.

9. Squandered away Marshawn Lynch.

10. Every year they are teased with a run (such as now at 6-5) ultimately to fall off in December.

 

 

Good points, but honestly, I actually think we are the new Bills.  They are the best comparison if there is one, but I chose the Browns to compare us to because they are widely considered the most long suffering fans.

But, the Bills history of mediocrity I think is as close as we come to a legit comparison.

[bLACKpANTHER]

TBH, we have had it pretty good as a franchise so far..

In 20 years:
- 2 Superbowl appearances
- 5 Division Titles
- 3-4 other deep playoff runs
- only 2 really REAL sh*tty seasons (the rest have been around .500)
- some HOF players along the way (K.Green, Smitty, Peppers, *Cam, *Luke)

[Snake]

3 hours ago, Jangler said:

Yeah, Minnesota says hi.

Well they are pretty much Canadians so they don't count. 

[pantherphan96]

i'll take maddening inconsistency over being consistently terrible

[hepcat]

4 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Browns fans have it easy. They go in to every season knowing they will suck, and sure enough, they suck. Expectations are met. 

 

We go into the season thinking Superbowl, and suck. That is true heartbreak. 

Is it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

[ickmule]

12 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

If you havent learn to temper expectations for this franchise by now, that's a you problem.

True. I've learned to expect suckage

[truthjuice]

We do. Browns fans have no expectations on winning. They truly go and watch the games for the entertainment. On the other hand, we have Cam Newton and Luke Keuchly. We have winning expections. We have accomplished a lot so we expect that. 

LOL "shipwreck Ron" 

[DamnItJake!]

it is sad Cleveland use to give the Donkies a hell of a game in the playoffs in the 80's but since the move to Baltimore they have sucked..Like the Bobcats still suck u killed the mojo by moving the Hornets to NO...For the Panthers we are pretty lucky as a franchise and my co-worker is a Jags fan.. so he is envious of our success to Jax..as you youggins might not know Carolina and Jacksonville joined the NFL the same year.so the Brownies have it worse but not my problem :). 

[csx]

Considering franchise history we have the highest winning pct  in our division by a pretty good amount.  We are 20th......the next best is NO at 28th.

[csx]

26 minutes ago, truthjuice said:

We do. Browns fans have no expectations on winning. They truly go and watch the games for the entertainment. On the other hand, we have Cam Newton and Luke Keuchly. We have winning expections. We have accomplished a lot so we expect that. 

LOL "shipwreck Ron" 

That makes it better not worse Debbie Downer

[truthjuice]

24 minutes ago, csx said:

That makes it better not worse Debbie Downer

Shut up. We have it worse bc we have high expectations and we are losing. But a Debbie downer I am not. I pick us to win every week and don't believe in tanking the season. Browns fans do not care if they win or lose, they don't expect anything. 

[Inimicus]

Three words...

Factory of Sadness...

 

[ClawOn]

Not to be a fashionista or something, but you don't want to wear a poo colored Browns jersey unless under penalty of death.