Final 10 + 5 and Jonathan Allen

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

I do not doubt Allen is a great player that would help the Panthers pass rush immediately.

However, he is the one guy that would make me have a child like tantrum on my fake GM couch if drafted. Duplicating a hog molley DT pick at 8 (with that Bama injury woe) would be Gettleman mocking Gettleman. 

In other words...this is the worst case senario!! 

[Clipper]

Allen would be a better pick than Howard. Allen would become a contributor immediately, whether it be at DE or DT. I'm not sure how I feel about Allen vs McCaffrey, though.

[zacka77ack]

Jonathan Allen is not a fit for the Panthers. He's a DT who can play DE, not a DE who can play DT. Panthers need DEs, not DTs.


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[Wundrbread33]

Most violent hands in the draft and great footwork.

No one sheds blocks like Allen. He is second to none in this draft.

Honestly if his shoulders are cleared for take off, we would be stupid to pass on him at 8.

And I am about as warm as anyone can get about the idea of McCaffrey right now.


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[SOJA]

Said this before but reading the tea leaves this looks like the Panthers big board 

Garrett > Allen > Fournette > Adams > Thomas > McAffrey > Howard

[csx]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

You understand that JA is pretty much the same size as Julius Peppers right?  And that some scouts see his fit in the NFL on the outside and not interior?

He's 6'3"

[pantherclaw]

Allen is a monster that can absolutely play on the edge.

Would love to have him and his non-stop motor on our dline.

[tiger7_88]

31 minutes ago, csx said:

He's 6'3"

Yeah, there is that.  :P

[AceMan]

If we draft Allen, how does Butler get any playing time?

[csx]

20 minutes ago, AceMan said:

If we draft Allen, how does Butler get any playing time?

I don't think they would play the same position. I don't think we will draft Allen.

[panther4life]

Allen is a perfect 3-4 end. That's what he played at Alabama and that's what he'll play for Chicago. (Yes John Fox is running a 3-4 D there. Even if he makes past them,I just see no reason why a top 3 D-lineman would fall to 8 when there's not QB's or LT's push him down that far. 

 

[shaqattaq]

I saw a mock that had us getting Obi and Zay in the second. If this guy knows what he's taking about, what a steal that would be!  I've said before that I'm more excited about round 2 than round 1. 

[JawnyBlaze]

4 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

You understand that JA is pretty much the same size as Julius Peppers right?  And that some scouts see his fit in the NFL on the outside and not interior?

Allen is 4 inches shorter than peppers....he only fits on the outside in a 3-4. It's not just about height/weight. He doesn't have the bend, agility or explosiveness for 4-3 DE.  Some scouts saw that guy I can't even remember his name that went to the jags as a better QB prospect than Cam.  Scouts aren't always right. 

[t96]

2 hours ago, zacka77ack said:

Jonathan Allen is not a fit for the Panthers. He's a DT who can play DE, not a DE who can play DT. Panthers need DEs, not DTs.


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He's an elite football player on the defensive line. DG written all over him. He'll be taken top 5 though. Should help us land Thomas or an LSU kid.