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Official Carolina Panthers at San Francisco 49ers Gameday Thread
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Jeremy Igo,
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By kungfoodude · Posted
He has a lot to work on for sure but he has been a huge boost to the offense. It's nice to finally have an elite WR. -
We have been on that roller coaster ride already. He needs to have streaks far longer than a couple of good games. People raved about the Green Bay game in 2023. Which was mostly a good 2nd half and hot 4th quarter. Ask me what happened the next four games, if you don’t remember. or just go look them up. There isn’t much to see. The end of last year had some good things and one excellent outing, and look up what followed that, which you won’t have to but he came out this year looking like week 1 2023. Now he is on a game and a half streak, against a bad Miami team and lowest rated defense in the league - at home. This is the reality in the big picture. He needs to break his pattern, in a positive way. -
By fieryprophet · Posted
This "noodle arm" characterization just baffles me. There's way more involved in a successful downfield passing attack than simple air yards. Let's take two stat-lines for throws of 40+ air yards (no YAC) from the last 3 seasons: 5/29 (17%) for 3 TDs and 2 INTs 1/9 (11%) for 1 TD So with three times the number of attempts, you net +6% completion percentage, the same TD rate, and 2 arm punt INTs to boot. The first player is Mahomes, the second is Bryce. Clearly Bryce attempts these throws at a much lower rate, but his success rate is quite similar to one of the most talented downfield throwers of all time. The takeaway isn't that Bryce is Mahomes-lite (if he was his usage rate for these would be much higher) but that these throws by their very nature are extremely difficult, very scheme-specific, and even an elite thrower can have wildly differing success rates season by season. And before we get into the complaints of cherry-picking, this is far more substantial information than the various insinuations that Bryce struggles to even get the ball 20 yards downfield, much less 40+. And the wildest part of this is that every time Mahomes threw a bomb over the last 3 season, 83% of the time the end result was failure, yet many Chiefs fans complain that he isn't taking even more shots downfield.
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