Is this essentially a lame duck season?

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

The only way I see them being safe is if Hurney is retained on precedent to not fire the coaching staff.

If we bring in another GM who doesn't bring his own staff with him I will pretty much give up hope. 

The last GM was forced to keep the staff as a condition of employment.  What makes you think the next one (wishful thinking) will be allowed to bring in his guys?  The precedent has already been set my fine feathered friend.

Hurney lol, will not fire this staff. You can bank on that.

[Khyber53]

When the owner of your team, who bleeds blue and black, is on his second heart there are no lame duck seasons.

[Eazy-E]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not ready to go that far just yet.

But one thing I feel pretty certain about: If Marty Hurney gets the permanent GM job (which I believe he will) then Ron Rivera is not going anywhere.

Heck, I'm not a big believer that Rivera's going anywhere either way.

Yeah I fear it goes all the way to the top

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

When the owner of your team, who bleeds blue and black, is on his second heart there are no lame duck seasons.

The owner is also more concerned about having a happy place to work than he is about winning games.

Under those conditions, it could be argued that all of our seasons are lame duck seasons.

[Khyber53]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The owner is also more concerned about having a happy place to work than he is about winning games.

Under those conditions, it could be argued that all of our seasons are lame duck seasons.

Nah, you can't have it both ways. Jerry can't be the union busting, my way or the highway, fast food titan crusher of dreams and the kindly old Mr. Rogers of football familydom.

To think he created the Panthers as a social exercise rather than as a competitive venture is just blowing smoke up your own butt.

C'mon man, you're better than that.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Nah, you can't have it both ways. Jerry can't be the union busting, my way or the highway, fast food titan crusher of dreams and the kindly old Mr. Rogers of football familydom.

To think he created the Panthers as a social exercise rather than as a competitive venture is just blowing smoke up your own butt.

C'mon man, you're better than that.

He didn't create them as a social exercise. That's silly.

Unfortunately, what's also silly is that on two separate occasions, Richardson has parted ways with successful general managers over personality conflicts.

That's a pretty clear indication that there are things which mean more to him than winning.

[Castavar]

After firing our GM AFTER the draft and then hiring back the GM that put us in cap hell to start with, you just knew this season was going to be a lame duck season. Rebuilding teams do that sh*t, NOT playoff teams.

[Snake]

I honestly think getting our ass kicked was a good thing. Rivera never is better than when he knows his job is on the line. I will say this JR will not want to lose his franchise QB over poor OC game planning and Shula will take the sword if this year fails. 

[unicar15]

If cam can't get healthy and he never gets into full practices during the week then that's exactly what this is. There's no way we're a competitive team with him playing the way he's playing. But hey...at least we'll be in position to draft Mike McGlinchey.

[*FreeFua*]

4 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

If cam can't get healthy and he never gets into full practices during the week then that's exactly what this is. There's no way we're a competitive team with him playing the way he's playing. But hey...at least we'll be in position to draft Mike McGlinchey.

Trey Adams

[uncfan888]

If Rivera survives going from hurney, to Gettleman, to hurney, to another GM.. I may have to tap out

[Eazy-E]

Bump because this topic is becoming more and more prevalent.

[lightsout]

Feels a lot like Foxy's last season here. The rapid decline of a team that most expected to at least be competitive. Everybody wants to be positive and say "we have 4 wins" but come on. That's a consolation prize because there is a VERY real world where we should have MAYBE one loss right now. We're simply not getting it done. Our OL hasn't seen some big shakeup since 2015. What difference there is is negligible (our OT's were bad then, still bad now. Some would say a slight step-up from then to now). Kalil being injured doesn't help. Olsen either. However, this comes down to coaching. These players didn't just suddenly get bad. We're getting out-coached and it shows weekly.