So uh... apparently Ted Ginn fuging Jr. has the highest catch % of all WRs in the NFL

[thefuzz]

Brees is one of the best passers in the history of the NFL...I'm not all that shocked.

[Mr. Scot]

8 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

Time to wait for someone to blame this on Cam

It's not fair to "blame" Cam, but it's not correct to completely remove him from the equation either. 

People will go to accuracy, but while that could play a role, I don't think that's the heart of it.

Would anybody argue that a pass from Drew Brees is easier to catch than a pass from Cam Newton?

Similar example: Would you rather try to catch a pass from Tom Brady or from Brett Favre?

The velocity of a pass makes a difference, as does the force with which it hits your hands. Any receiver who's caught passes from a fireballer would tell you that. A quarterback like Newton needs guys with tough enough hands to catch the hardballs he tends to throw.

Herb Brooks' line in Miracle about needing the right players more than the best players is a very true statement when it comes to building an NFL system. This is one of the areas where that principle applies.

[Pimpdaddy]

hope his azz drops the game winner against us....

[UpstatePanther]

6 hours ago, Udogg said:

Drew Brees throws like a dad in the back yard with his young kid.

Cam throws like the drunk father who blames you for not having a football career. 

Udogg it sounds like you have experience with this. everyone say a prayer for Udogg. lmao

[brandon_87]

Glad to see this... tired of people here saying he was only good because of Cam haha

[TheRed]

Gettlemagic.

[*FreeFua*]

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

Ginn signed a 3 year / $11 million deal with the taints. Shepard signed a 3 year / $10 million deal with us. I'd have paid that extra $333 K per year for Ginn. Even if Shep turns out to be better than he's playing now, Ginn was a proven commodity. G-man (bless his heart) screwed the pooch on this deal.

Gettleman was way in over his head this past offseason.

He took what were supposed to be bargain bin deals and offered to pay more than full price.

Shep, Munnerlyn and Kalil were most likely all speechless when they saw what was offered.

[Peppers90 NC]

#accuracy

[Mojo]

Yeah I agree with some of the others in here, this says more about Brees than anything.  His ball placement, accuracy and touch are pretty much unmatched in today's game.

[CRA]

8 hours ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

I think part of the blame has to fall on Cam. Because Cam throws at a lower completion % than Brees, his wide receivers tend to be more hesitant b/c they know the chances of an inaccurate pass floating their way is greater, or there's a greater likelihood of getting leveled in the middle of the field due to a pass that sails high

Cam's accuracy dictates the confidence of his wide receivers. Ginn leading the league in catch % is indicative of the more superior QB throwing to him. 

Meh, rewatch the Ginn Carolina games and he dropped tons of layups deep.  All on Ginn on tons of should of been huge plays.

Something like this to me is just one of those odd stats that occur in a short window and nothing more.  A 10 game window that contradicts an entire career....is just a quirky window.  I wouldn’t over think it. 

[TheRed]

With all these posts about accuracy, you would think some of these people were living under a rock in 2015. Cam was throwing insane lasers at Ginn that season. Ted could have had another half dozen touchdowns and 2 or 300 more yards if not for the drops.

As accurate as Brees is, Ginn has clearly improved his hands. 

[Mr. Scot]

For reference, Ted Ginn's quarterback history:

2007 - Trent Green / Cleo Lemon / John Beck
2008 - Chad Pennington
2009 - Chad Pennington / Chad Henne
2010 - Alex Smith / Troy Smith
2011 - Alex Smith
2012 - Alex Smith / Colin Kaepernick
2013 - Cam Newton
2014 - Carson Palmer / Drew Stanton / Ryan Lindley
2015 - Cam Newton
2016 - Cam Newton
2017 - Drew Brees

[uncfan888]

4 minutes ago, TheRed said:

With all these posts about accuracy, you would think some of these people were living under a rock in 2015. Cam was throwing insane lasers at Ginn that season. Ted could have had another half dozen touchdowns and 2 or 300 more yards if not for the drops.

As accurate as Brees is, Ginn has clearly improved his hands. 

agreed. Cam hit him in the hands and the chest countless times and the ball fell straight through. But Cam's inaccurate yadda yadda yadda

[KillerKat]

You're a fuging moron if you think the switch from Cam to Brees is the reason. The only way that would make a difference is if Brees is out there slapping Gorilla Glue on Ginn's hands in the huddle. Cam has put it right on the money for Ginn numerous times only for the ball to go through his hands. This thread is revisionists history at it's finest.