Yikes

[Smithers]

2 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

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Unless you wanna elaborate on how our S play has been good?

Yep.  Safety play has been abysmal.  We easily have 4 positions in the secondary that need upgraded.  Throw in LT, power RB, and FB, and WR...makes it hard to blame coaching when there are 7-8 positions that field below average players. That’s 40% of our starters.

[ncfan]

21 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

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Unless you wanna elaborate on how our S play has been good?

Our safety play has been bad to.  But our CBs have been garbage as well.

Only thing thats saved them are drops by WRs this year

Zay Jones, Julio, Thielan, etc

Evans was punking our CBs mossing them.  ESPNs whole you got mossed could have just been on our CBs alone.

The only ints theyve had this year were when it deflected off their man who was open or when the QB was throwing off his back foot being hit.  I have not seen Bradberry (in seasons) make a play on the ball.  

[rayzor]

Oye.

[LinvilleGorge]

16 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

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Unless you wanna elaborate on how our S play has been good?

No disagreement there. I think Adams has been pretty solid for the most part but Coleman seems to have really regressed.

The difference is that we know our safeties are pretty much stop gaps. We're hoping our CBs are long-term answers. 

[Fox007]

I actually thought Mike Adams would come here and do well because he actually was good for Indy....welp.

You know some poo is wack when Jones is looking like a sick Safety, eh maybe it only took him 6 years to develop. 

[Fox007]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

No disagreement there. I think Adams has been pretty solid for the most part but Coleman seems to have really regressed.

The differwnce is thatvwevknow pur safeties are pretty much stop gaps. We're hoping our CBs are long-term answers. 

I know it's obvious because of the age but we didn't get the Indy Mike Adams. He's not Coleman bad but damn....we also gonna need DEs to develop all of ours are old as poo except for Cox and there is 0 reason to bring CJ back next year.

[Carolina Cajun]

59 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Both of our starting corners are 6'1"(listed) and taller than our 5'11"(listed) S's.....

Not sure where you think we're going to be getting any taller there(Norman 6'0 listed)

I meant that as a shot at us only targeting captain munnerlynn in FA this past off-season at CB, and he doesn't have the size to compete outside meaning he really wasn't a threat to unseat Worley or bradberry.

[PantherNation123]

35 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

I know it's obvious because of the age but we didn't get the Indy Mike Adams. He's not Coleman bad but damn....we also gonna need DEs to develop all of ours are old as poo except for Cox and there is 0 reason to bring CJ back next year.

Completely agree.  I feel like Adams has been getting torched more often than Coleman (maybe it's because Coleman missed a couple of games).

Just constantly seems he is letting folks get behind him.

At this point, I really want to see Jairus Byrd play more because I haven't seen him get beat... but could be too late for that

[ForJimmy]

Safety help would do wonders for these two...

[pantherj]

We blitz 44.8% of the time.

[Jon Snow]

I think the issue with the secondary regressing has more to do with Wilks defensive scheme.  They are trying to adjust on the fly and it's showing.  Wilks has some growing to do of his own as a defensive coordinator.

[pantherj]

Coleman is just a lump of muscle that can't leave the ground, doesn't have a nose for the ball at all, and runs like a 40 year old.

Adams is the kind of player you have at safety when you ran out of options and had to make move out of desperation to throw someone out there.

 

[Khyber53]

And yet, we're 11-4.

They've played against the likes of Rodgers, Brady, Ryan, Brees, Winston, Stafford, Wentz and a surprisingly good Case Keenum this year. Let's take that Trubisky game out (although our secondary wasn't the problem there). And they've done it with aging safeties and the underwhelming performance of Captain Munnerlyn at nickel. 

And really, only one of those was it close to a blow out (that first one against the Saints). 

The stats might say they suck, but the record speaks for itself. Right now, they are just good enough to slow down a good offense. And sometimes that's all you need.

(And Worley has been turning it on pretty good in the last few games). 

If we stick with these guys, they're going to be a good tandem. A really good tandem.

[Fox007]

6 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

And yet, we're 11-4.

They've played against the likes of Rodgers, Brady, Ryan, Brees, Winston, Stafford, Wentz and a surprisingly good Case Keenum this year. Let's take that Trubisky game out (although our secondary wasn't the problem there). And they've done it with aging safeties and the underwhelming performance of Captain Munnerlyn at nickel. 

And really, only one of those was it close to a blow out (that first one against the Saints). 

The stats might say they suck, but the record speaks for itself. Right now, they are just good enough to slow down a good offense. And sometimes that's all you need.

(And Worley has been turning it on pretty good in the last few games). 

If we stick with these guys, they're going to be a good tandem. A really good tandem.

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Hey guys our LT is playing well because his record speaks for itself.