Poll: Players vs Coaching

[Eazy-E]

No it’s both or 50/50 bullshit. I just want to see where the majority of our fans stand with the current state of the Panthers and our struggles this season.

I personally feel coaching has been a much bigger issue across the board. Talent wise I would argue we are stronger at almost every position compared to last year. (Norwell and Williams being the major exceptions)

[Bartin]

I’m at like 65% coaching and 35% players so I don’t really know how to vote.

I think our DL has been absolute ass so that’s on the players but I think Washington could and should blitz more.

I think our offensive play calling and particularly the personnel decisions could be much better but the execution there has also been lacking.

[iamhubby1]

 

    First, I don't appreciate you asking for my opinion. Then telling me there are limitations. Not cool dude.

 

    Second. And I don't want to take no poo for this but...I think it is a bit of both. With a sprinkle of WTH thrown in. 

 

    We were 3-1, then a WTH game happens. A perfect "Peanut Punch", Cam under throws Funch, Smith's fumble/completed pass, and Moore trying to do too much. That is 4 WTHs that went against us. Who knows what happens if we get 2 of those. But alas, no such luck.

 

    Some Coaching moves, player mistakes, and lady luck kinda peeing in our Corn Flakes have lead us to this point. 

 

    Short story long; 35% Coaching. 55% Players. 10% Lady Luck.

[jfra78]

nvm i read it wrong

[Eazy-E]

4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

how can you give a poll with two options then tell us its a third option?

I think I made it pretty clear. Like someone posted before, if you think it is 65% coaching and 35% players, than your answer would be coaching as 65 > 35. It is pretty simple.

There is no right or wrong answer. Just trying to gauge where the majority stands.

[Mr. Scot]

I mean honestly, it's not like one or the other of them has to be good.

They legitimately can both be bad.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

It should be:

Players

Coaches

Both

Not just 2

[DaveThePanther2008]

I put it more on the players but will admit I don't think Turner gives Cam the audible capabilities as Shula did.  In the past it seemed a lot of our mistake were because players dropping balls.  Now it seem that some plays were run and it wasn't the right call for the defense.

 

[MHS831]

They are all professionals--it is the players' jobs to be ready, and it is the coaches' jobs to get them ready and manage the game. 

The coach must ultimately assume the responsibility, even if we spot the opposition 10 points off 2  unforeseeable turnovers and lose by 6.

The presser disappointed me because RR started making excuses--turnover at coordinators, weather (need a dome for practice), bad luck, etc.  Even if all are true, you don't do that.  Take the blame and move on--you are getting it anyway.

[Khyber53]

The answer might not fit your narrative.

You also forgot to offer up that the opposing team is doing everything it can to win the game as well.

We were in both losses until the very last moments of those games. The same could be said for the wins, as well. 

The team isn't working flawlessly and there have been coaching issues and player issues. There have also been moments where luck just hasn't gone our way. And then there have been moments where the opposing teams are just playing lights out.

It happens in real life. 

Good teams bear down, work harder and don't give up. Good fans keep cheering. This season is far from over.

[IceWhiteice]

This coaching staff don’t attack weaknesses. They stick to what they want to do. That’s why top coaches succeed and we stay up and down. We have had enough talent here to consistently win. Although we have made the playoffs we really didn’t have a chance but 2015

[Joe the Show]

Coaches didn't fumble twice.  Coaches didn't miss throws on the potential game winning drive.  Coaches didn't commit stupid offsides penalties.

Now you could argue the penalties are the result of bad coaching earlier in the week.  But the rest is on the players.

[IceWhiteice]

Can’t keep playing the same players that make dumb mistakes. 

[Icege]

Not quite sure how "both" is a bullshit answer when it's the correct one.

DJ Moore w/ 2 fumbles
Defense out of sync
Clock management
4th down jitters

It's literally a team effort to lose.