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Rivera Tuesday presser

ncfan

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MHS831 Grand Master

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11 minutes ago, SpeedOFLight said:

I was about to say the same thing. Some people just doesn’t have it lol . I seen some of the best teachers I have been around struggle to teach someone basic education. If the student isn’t willing , no hope lol

Yes, you can fix stupid--its called "learning".

Football is not that hard.  It is what they have done their entire lives.  What you saw was a teacher trying to teach someone who was not trying back.  That is not the case here, and if it is, it is because the players do not respect the teacher. 

 

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5 minutes ago, mjligon said:

we drop these last 3 games it's 100% happening. 1-2 will probably still be enough.

I think he's gone even if we make playoffs and get embarrassed in round 1 or even round 2. Expectations this year were SB, not 5+ straight losses and early playoff exit or no playoffs entirely. RR knows he's fuged.

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10 hours ago, MHS831 said:

And he says that the defense could have handled the 4 plays for 200 yards better--NO SH!T.  They could have been prepared better, they could have been put in position better.  The defensive call should have been better.

I am in education--I hate the teacher who blames his or her students for being dumb when their job is to make them smart. 

The kids also aren't making million dollars a year so I just don't think its the same.  Equating it to the classroom is not a proper analogy.  I'm not apologizing for Rivera.  I want him to succeed, though I feel if he can't turn this season around when it's still possible we should make a change.  

The players have come out and supported Ron...so I really don't think there's an issue with them truly feeling like they're being thrown under the bus.  Rivera didn't throw those awful throws at the end of the game.  Rivera really isn't the reason we lost this game.  Cam was...and I love Cam too. Cam makes 3 times as much as Ron in a year....he can take some blame too.  Did any of your students get paid three times as much as you did by the school?  If this was college maybe its different.

Also defensively....we gave up some big plays.  I mean Mayfield did make an incredible throw in good coverage on Reid.  That was a good defensive play call....just a great throw.  Overall, our D has played a little better since Washington got demoted.  

Where Ron is getting sloppy is with time management.  Specifically at the end of the 1st half when there was no timeout called after the first decent play.  I'm not sure if they let Cam make that call or not. It's those little things that can cost you a game.  So a lot of thing are Ron's fault...a lot of things aren't. 

One of the biggest things still plaguing this team was the decision Gettleman made to let Josh Norman walk even after he signed his franchise tag.  You've seen the consequences of that decision as recently as Sunday....and every time we play a division opponent. It's been haunting us ever since.  Gettleman also decided to keep Turner over Norwell...a miscalculation in retrospect. 

It's Ron's job to defend the roster going into every season.  It's how they sell tickets.  The team would sell less tickets if the coach in the midst of training camp and the beginning of the season spoke of all the deficiencies on the rosters. It would also send the wrong message to the players...even if its true. Now that were on a 5 game slide....I think Rivera is revealing more truth then anything regarding the roster.

The truth is....it shouldn't have taken a rocket scientist to look at our roster...especially on defense and realize it's not that good.  There's no depth at linebacker.  The corners are young and the safety is old.  Eric Reid is a good big hitter, but that's all. Adams is a good veteran back up or rotation guy but shouldn't be starting. We should have all seen the pass rush issues we were going to have.  JPep is old, and Addison should have always been a strictly rotational guy and there isn't much depth behind them.  We have no depth at corner with Cockrell going down early. We lost our plug up front in Star and there's no depth at linebacker.  The Panthers are built to wear down and regress as the season progresses....even though there may be a few individual players who might improve.  Ron didn't help the situation with the Washington promotion and the Brady Hoke hire.  Hoke wasn't the right guy for the job, but he was going to have tough sledding trying to improve that D line even if he was a great coach.  I do understand why Rivera promoted Washington.  He had been a decent D line coach, and the last hire that Rivera made from within to the defensive coordinator spot worked out with Wilks.  Rivera thought he had develop an adequate formula for developing defensive coordinators.  Which apparently it wasn't adequate now in hindsight.

 

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1 minute ago, TheMaulClaw said:

The kids also aren't making million dollars a year so I just don't think its the same.  Equating it to the classroom is not a proper analogy.  I'm not apologizing for Rivera.  I want him to succeed, though I feel if he can't turn this season around when it's still possible we should make a change.  

 

I have taught school, I have led a school, I coached in high school, I played in college---and I now teach educational leadership in a master's degree and doctoral program after earning a doctorate in education.  I can tell you one thing--teaching and learning is a dynamic that does not change-the variables do.  It is the same thing--good teachers motivate change in behaviors that lead to cognitive development by understanding the learner and building a bridge toward desired outcomes. That is not different.  Thanks for the tip though.

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I have taught school, I have led a school, I coached in high school, I played in college---and I now teach educational leadership in a master's degree and doctoral program after earning a doctorate in education.  I can tell you one thing--teaching and learning is a dynamic that does not change-the variables do.  It is the same thing--good teachers motivate change in behaviors that lead to cognitive development by understanding the learner and building a bridge toward desired outcomes. That is not different.  Thanks for the tip though.

You remember the saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" You can only do so much and then it is out of your hands.

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