The quarterback position going forward

[TheMaulClaw]

16 hours ago, Keeksneak59 said:

It's simple we win when we rush for over 100 yards in a game. Sit Cam until he's better and run the damn ball. Heinike is alright for next season, he can do just enough with a strong run game to win until Cam gets back. 

Heinicke is a good story but an awful player.

[raleigh-panther]

17 hours ago, thefuzz said:

There will be some names pop up after the season.

We are in a very funny spot right now.

1:  Cam is hurt, and no one knows the severity. 

2:  We don't know who the GM of the team will be going forward. 

3:  We think that Ron may be back for 1 more season, but aren't sure about that right now.

4:  We have some big decisions coming with Olsen, TD, Kalil's, backup QB, Funchess, Peppers, etc....lots of big decisions.

5:  Coming off an absolute plummet/horrible season.

The Panthers are at a pretty big crossroads right now, and I don't trust 1 single person in the front office.

Fun times.

You are so right. 

i want Hurney no where near this

im going to be really disappointed if he stays

All one needs to do is look at the QB backup position and situation keeping two kickers then keeping the wrong kicker, giving aging players their retirement shows, putting an incredibly old DL and some of the draft picks to know this isn’t going to work

 My God, I feel like we are reliving the Fox era

[raleigh-panther]

6 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Bridgewater is the easy choice.

He gives the Panthers a chance to win while also not forcing them to draft a QB in the early rounds and committing to him for the future.

If you draft Grier and Newton can’t play next year then you might as well move on from Cam because you would be stunting Grier's growth by starting him next year and then sitting him the following year when Cam returns.

Sign Bridgewater and draft someone like Minshew in the 6th. If Cam can play then great, if not then we have a contingency plan that doesn’t involve moving on from him should he not be able to suit up.

He was the easy choice this year too. Had for a third round but hey you know, Gauldin greater than a backup for QB1 coming off shoulder surgery

i hate Rivera and Hurney   All I can say.  Dumb and Dumber. Epitome of Mediocre and come Sunday, will be the first time in 16 game era to start 6 and 2 and lose 10 straight

welcome to the record books Ron

[Captain Obvious]

 

So it begins.

[Mr. Scot]

Bailey has a point. Letting go of Newton doesn't sound likely, but how likely does him getting another big contract from the Panthers seem? (especially if the shoulder problem lingers)

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

You are so right. 

i want Hurney no where near this

im going to be really disappointed if he stays

All one needs to do is look at the QB backup position and situation keeping two kickers then keeping the wrong kicker, giving aging players their retirement shows, putting an incredibly old DL and some of the draft picks to know this isn’t going to work

 My God, I feel like we are reliving the Fox era

The smart coaches and GM's have to look at Carolina, roll their eyes, smirk, and say a little thank you to the ones above.

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Bailey has a point. Letting go of Newton doesn't sound likely, but how likely does him getting another big contract from the Panthers seem? (especially if the shoulder problem lingers)

Marty in the drivers seat scares me to death with this shoulder issue.  Cam is under contract, just like TD and Olsen...yet we extended both...because reasons.

We absolutely do NOT have to give Cam an extension.  We control him for the next 4 years if we really want.  

Let's see if Cam and his agent picked up something from TD and Olsen.

[Raleigh PF]

Bridgewater is the correct choice over a draft pick. This year's crop of QBs will not produce an immediate starter/franchise QB. It would be a disaster to try and force that possibility.

Bridgewater is young enough to hang around for a few years. He's good insurance in the very likely event Cam is not ready to start the season, or maybe even play AT ALL next year.

I'd see if Teddy would be open to a reasonable five-year deal. For Teddy, it allows him to settle in one area for a while. He also knows Norv and his system, so the transition wouldn't be too bad. He can mostly run the offense "as-is", so there is little transition to the offense that was clicking when Newton was even moderately healthy.

For the Panthers, they get an insurance policy. Back-load the contract, so he could be cut after year 3, if the Panthers choose to re-sign Newton (fully healed), with minimal impact to the cap. Of course, that may require some guaranteed money up front, but it's a no-lose deal.

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, Paa Langfart said:

Not only that but my eyes told me that Garret Gilbert was a better qb than Heinicke.  The only reason Heinicke got the nod over Gilbert was Norv knew him from Minny

I love seeing people admit this now rather than in August, when I said it and got flamed for it. 

[Varking]

So Bridgewater and Bortles are going to be our 1 and 2 going into next season until Cam is healthy?

[thefuzz]

8 minutes ago, Varking said:

So Bridgewater and Bortles are going to be our 1 and 2 going into next season until Cam is healthy?

Not a terrible situation to be honest...especially if docs think that Cam needs to shut it down a year.  I'm 100% on board with Cam getting this fixed right this time, him going through all of the rest and rehab needed to try to get the arm as close to correct as possible.

We invested in him, it's time for us to stand by him (for at least 2 more seasons).

[Sgt Schultz]

Bridgewater makes sense.  He can run the offense and is over three years younger than Cam, and he really only has about two seasons of wear on him.  The problem is we aren't going to be the only ones looking at him and thinking he is the best and most obvious choice.

In a year that the draft does not look like it is going to produce a lot of NFL-caliber QBs, Bridgewater makes more sense than getting somebody closer to the end of the line and trying to draft a potential down the road starter.

If Cam's shoulder is toast, the situation with Bridgewater is easy.  It gets more complicated assuming Cam recovers, as three plus years is not a lot of difference, meaning Bridgewater may not be the heir apparent (and probably would not want to stick around that long as a backup).  Of course, that means he could become trade bait down the road if Cam stays beyond 2020.  It definitely makes 2020 a critical decision point for the organization.

It may come down to money.  It is easy to argue that it would be money well spent given the uncertainty, but it is not the only position in need of help.

[mc52beast]

So basically if Ron stays another year and Cam doesn’t play Ron has another excuse as to why we had two consecutive losing seasons...

Be ready for it, it’s coming

[Sgt Schultz]

3 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

Now that Sam Bradford is done robbing teams for $20mil a season. You can get him reasonable rate, start Cam on IR with designation to return and give Cam close to a year with full recovery. If the team wants to operate, now would be the time to allow scar tissue to recover

I'd probably throw Flacco in that same group.  Guys closer to the end of their line that can fill the void, but aren't the long-term (and maybe not the medium-term) answer.  Still, not bad to have standing on the sidelines as an insurance policy assuming Cam recovers.  Bridgewater is a better answer if Cam's future is in more doubt and we want somebody who could keep us from a longer-term starting QB panic.

I saw rumors online the Redskins may make a run at Flacco, and given their history of overspending, that may make him too pricey to even consider.

Tyrod Taylor is going to be a FA, and Derrick Carr might be available, depending on Jon Gruden's mood of the day.  I'm not advocating for either one, but they are/may be out there and could fit in the right role.  Taylor seems to me to be a guy that might fit the "Cam will be back either for the start of the season or by week 1-6" role, while Carr might be more suited for a longer-term expectation (or dangled out as trade bait next offseason or beyond if Cam comes back well).

Several paths the team could take to address this issue.  Who knows what they really know about the prognosis on Cam's shoulder.