If Ron goes 3-4 does that mean Tepper wants him around

[mc52beast]

Listening to WFNZ this morning, guys were talking about the possibility of Ron switching to a 3-4 and they brought up a good point that if Tepper wants a 3-4 defense he has to give Ron more than just one offseason to get it right.

 

[CBDellinger]

if the Tepp is dictating what schemes to run then we may have big problems on the horizon.

 

[Mr. Scot]

There's no real indication that Tepper forced this. From what we've heard, it was more Rivera's initiative because he's frustrated with division opponents having his defense figured out.

So basically, I wouldn't read anything into it regarding his job security either way.

[MountaineerChemist10]

Honestly, I'm not going to listen to rumors or theories until training camp.

[CBDellinger]

The espn article about how hands on Haslm is with the Browns gives me nightmares. 

Dude cant get out of his own way.  I pray out new owner wont fall victim to that trap.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CBDellinger said:

The espn article about how hands on Haslm is with the Browns gives me nightmares. 

Dude cant get out of his own way.  I pray out new owner wont fall victim to that trap.

I'm all for owners being hands off and letting their football people run the team.

That said, my feelings would be a lot more favorable in this situation if we had better "football people" than Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera available for Tepper to trust.

[bandu]

prior to joining the Panthers didn't Ron Rivera use a 3-4 scheme in San Diego that was ranked #1 in the NFL?

just saying if so then this makes no sense whatsoever.

[Waldo]

So far Tepper seems more hands off the football side of the organization. That's great once we have quality people in place on the football side but bad short-term because of who is there now. Haslm is a great example of an idiot with money ruining everything. That was always my nightmare scenario for the team sale. As a fan, all I have to do is wait for the inevitable and the situation should fix itself in a year or three. 

[bandu]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm all for owners being hands off and letting their football people run the team.

That said, my feelings would be a lot more favorable in this situation if we had better "football people" than Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera available for Tepper to trust.

Marty Hurnery did an outstanding job at the 2018 NFL draft &  prior to Cams shoulder injury the Panthers were 6-2

but you say i want "better football people"

"alrighty then" whatever you say Mr. Scot.

[KBRed]

I had similar thoughts on this...

If you are Rivera, you’ve got to be thinking this is a one year, make or break for your job here. Why would he risk, a high risk at that, to switch the defense over to a different scheme, with only one year to find the right personel, and implement the system? 

He either is being forced to do something, or he’s been told he has a few more years with the organization, as long as he calls the defense. 

I can’t read Tepper yet on his decisions, but I just don’t see Rivera going all-in this year, with a completely new look on defense. But, I also don’t see Tepper forcing something he’s not understanding of, or promising more years to Rivera’s future. 

[Black&BlueBubba]

I can see Tepper wanting us to evolve with the rest of the league though.  It has become a pass happy league. It does is no good to be top 5 against the run and bottom 5 against the pass.  I would not put it out of the realm of possibility that Tepper would like us to follow the league. But he would not dictate the X’s and O’s.  It is evident that to compete we will need to rush the passer and protect on the backend.  Maybe Ron is doing this because he is on the hot seat.  And another season of watching our divisional opponents pick apart our soft zones is not going to keep Ron’s job safe.  Maybe if he tries to implement more of a hybrid scheme it may extend his career here. 

[Carl Spackler]

If Ron's coaching for his job, I see no way he lets Cam sit out 2019.

[Harbingers]

Smokescreen. 

[Seltzer]

I really dont think Ron is as worried about his job security as many fans want him to be or believe he should be.

I am totally ok with finding another coach after this coming season if it doesn't work out, but Rivera will have no problem finding a job in the NFL, probably as another head coach and at worst a coordinator.

Ron knows the position with Panthers is solid and maybe the best one he will get bc of having a franchise QB and future Hall of Famer at LB in Kuechly, but he's bounced around the league many times and had top defenses at each spot.

The league-trend right now is offensive wunderkids as head coaches, but there is always a need for defensive guys to counter that.

Hoping that Ron fails so Tepper sticks it to him and/or Hurney is the epitome of small-mindedness.  

Regardless of what anyone on this board thinks, Tepper has evaluated both and found them to be competent. Both have led/built Super Bowl teams. Both have also made mistakes and underachieved.

Next year is a pivotal year, but I really dont understand the premise that they can't succeed or actively rooting for them to fail to tell people on a message board "I told you so."