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Cockrell the Free Safety

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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Looks like he may grab the starting FS spot since Gaulden isn't looking too great.

 

How are you feeling about that ?

 

I could not find any mention of him ever playing safety previously. But he is a Duke guy, have to think he has the smarts to put it together.

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2 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Looks like he may grab the starting FS spot since Gaulden isn't looking too great.

 

How are you feeling about that ?

 

I could not find any mention of him ever playing safety previously. But he is a Duke guy, have to think he has the smarts to put it together.

He was a very good zone corner, maybe we will use him in a lot of zone as a safety. He may thrive playing center field as a FS.

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I like it. I just like that we're exploring all of our current options. Why not?

I will say though that I don't put too much stock into being a *insert particular elite academic college* guy. The reality is that unless we're talking Ivy League, if you can pass the NCAA minimums you can probably get admitted just about anywhere as a revenue sport athlete. And even the Ivy League bends the rules. A buddy of mine played TE for Brown. He was a good student but he freely admits he would've had ZERO chance of getting into an Ivy League school without playing football.

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1 minute ago, Daeavorn said:

What about Gaulden made them think he was a good player when hes extremely unathletic.

Athleticism isn't everything, but we draft too many athletic outliers IMO. Funchess ran a 4.7 40 as a WR. Little had a 25" vertical and poor agility drill showings. Gaulden tested as one of if not the poorest athlete among his DB class. I get it, you get a feeling for a particular guy every now and then and take a chance, but IMO we do it too often.

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Duke stopped having different admission requirements from the rest of the ACC when they hired Cutcliffe. Cockrell might be a smart guy but it wouldn't have anything to do with where he went to play college football.

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Athleticism isn't everything, but we draft too many athletic outliers IMO. Funchess ran a 4.7 40 as a WR. Little had a 25" vertical and poor agility drill showings. Gaulden tested as one of if not the poorest athlete among his DB class. I get it, you get a feeling for a particular guy every now and then and take a chance, but IMO we do it too often.

I completely agree, we do this wayyy to often.

My issue with drafting non-athletes is they often have zero room for error.

Im not too keen on drafting guys that have to play perfectly in order to be successful.

 I was unaware of Little having bad agility and vert jump scores. That definitely shakes my confidence in him.

 

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24 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

If Cockrell is better, then fine. But Rivera and the FO has had plenty of opportunities to upgrade there but have refused to do so. If the position becomes a hindrance to the team, it's all on them

if the FS position becomes that much of a hindrance, then I would be putting more blame on our front 7 than Cockrell.

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45 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Looks like he may grab the starting FS spot since Gaulden isn't looking too great.

 

How are you feeling about that ?

 

I could not find any mention of him ever playing safety previously. But he is a Duke guy, have to think he has the smarts to put it together.

I feel like we need a couple vets signed soon for depth if that is the case. We also need to sign Cockrell now to a cheaper 2-3 year deal so he can be a valuable depth piece in the future before he becomes a free agent and his price goes up. 

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6 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

if the FS position becomes that much of a hindrance, then I would be putting more blame on our front 7 than Cockrell.

Unfortunately, that's Ron's mentality too. His mentality is that if a deep safety has to make a play then everyone else failed. The thing is though that sometimes everyone else does fail and that's why you have that guy back there.

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