Person: Possible "Tug of War" coming

[micnificent28]

10 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Here are the facts:

• Cam had his second shoulder surgery in 3 years in January. 
• Cam couldn't practice fully in training camp or during the pre-season
• Cam made it through 9 plays in the pre-season before getting injured.
• Cam lasted two games in the regular season before being benched to recover from his injuries.
• Cam has lost his last 8 games, and hasn't won a game in almost a year.
• The team has looked noticeably more energetic and overall more positive with Kyle Allen
• Kyle Allen is now 5-0 starting in place of Cam Newton

Yes, 2015 Cam Newton would have been an upgrade over Kyle Allen. Physically broken down losing streak 2019 Cam Newton may not be.

 

1.One shoulder injury...this isn't a oh he hurt it again.... it never healed or maybe he didnt sit out the two years like luck did. Same injury just takes a very long time to heal.

2. Daryl William's at left tackle in the preason was when the foot was injured. Like literally the first preason game probably the first drive. And it's a foot.. you cant get more fragile(unless you got whatever Olsen has going on) in your foot just like you cant build up more muscle to protect a foot. It was a more a coincidence and bad blocking than cam being more injury prone.

[4Corners]

Speculative horseshit. Person is an uninformed moron. The Athletic is fishing for clicks. 
 

the Athletic, in general, is a joke and only suckers would pay for their crap.  

[Ja Rhule]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

1.One shoulder injury...this isn't a oh he hurt it again.... it never healed or maybe he didnt sit out the two years like luck did. Same injury just takes a very long time to heal.

2. Daryl William's at left tackle in the preason was when the foot was injured. Like literally the first preason game probably the first drive. And it's a foot.. you cant get more fragile(unless you got whatever Olsen has going on) in your foot just like you cant build up more muscle to protect a foot. It was a more a coincidence and bad blocking than cam being more injury prone.

There is no guarantee his shoulder will ever heal.  

[PanthersNC1984]

So here is the thing. I keep hearing “2015 Cam is way better than Allen and you have to start Cam” or “100% Cam”

This is the million dollar question though. Can 100% 2019 Cam be on par or close to 100% 2015 Cam? 
 

Sure Cam will return when he is “100%” but will him being 100% after all the injuries still be good enough at this point? I still don’t have an opinion either way, just something to ponder 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, GreensboroPirate said:

Rivera is not the GM, Hurney was

There was a report Hurney had to override Rivera on draft night, as Rivera wanted to chose a defensive player and believed Newton to be a flash in the pan

 

That report must have originated on the Huddle. Multiple ESPN and NFL Network reporters said JR was "sold on" Cam days before the draft. If Hurney needed to override Rivera, that's fine, but JR was going to override any dissenting vote.

[Waldo]

If Cam is at his new normal of healthy and had good practices, he should start. I'm interested in hearing where the tug-of-war lays in the organization. 

[Bartin]

9 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

1.One shoulder injury...this isn't a oh he hurt it again.... it never healed or maybe he didnt sit out the two years like luck did. Same injury just takes a very long time to heal.

2. Daryl William's at left tackle in the preason was when the foot was injured. Like literally the first preason game probably the first drive. And it's a foot.. you cant get more fragile(unless you got whatever Olsen has going on) in your foot just like you cant build up more muscle to protect a foot. It was a more a coincidence and bad blocking than cam being more injury prone.

Blaming Daryl Williams for the original foot injury against the Pats might literally be the dumbest thing I’ve seen on these boards. Please go watch that play again.

It was a 6 man blitz that was actually blocked well and all of the pressure came up the middle.

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, GreensboroPirate said:

Rivera is not the GM, Hurney was

There was a report Hurney had to override Rivera on draft night, as Rivera wanted to chose a defensive player and believed Newton to be a flash in the pan

 

I don’t believe this 

remember who the Panthers QB was that Newton replaced 

[micnificent28]

13 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

There is no guarantee his shoulder will ever heal.  

I agree.. But because there is no guarantee do you not try to find out? Only way to find out is he plays..

[raz]

screw that dude person.  he'd try to make a tug of war happen.  

[trueblade]

Everyone has seen the pro Cam and pro Allen camps form in the fan base. It's not a huge stretch to imagine similar camps forming within the coaching staff and a 'tug of war' between them. 

[micnificent28]

9 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Blaming Daryl Williams for the original foot injury against the Pats might literally be the dumbest thing I’ve seen on these boards. Please go watch that play again.

It was a 6 man blitz that was actually blocked well and all of the pressure came up the middle.

 

You do have a valid point. Cant 100% put it on him but I'm more point out at what he did on this play which is little to nothing. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Jackofalltrades said:

I guess I don’t understand the controversy. If Cam is, in fact, healthy then I think he’s clearly the better option at QB. I really like Allen but to say he’s better then Cam at this point is ludicrous. So when Cam is healthy then he should be reinserted as the starting QB, the rest can and should play out after the season. Perhaps that’s a bit reductive but I think we’re making a mountain of a mole hill. 

ain't nobody got time for this type of reasonable, sensible, and obviously correct take on the situation.  you probably are looking at a ban to be honest. 

[BurnHurnBurn]

1 hour ago, PurityControl said:

Probably between Cam saying he's ready and the staff saying nah not yet.

Simplest answer usually correctest answer.