Down field completion pct. Allen not looking so great

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, GoPanthers123 said:

I’m crowning him as next Brady because Cam is injured and he will be our starter in the future, I love Cam but he hasn’t been the same.

I think you're going to be mighty disappointed.

[jfra78]

He's actually has been accurate throwing downfield prior to this last game.  There have been perfectly thrown balls dropped too.  Quit piling on him cause he had a bad game,  this is exactly what everyone hates about the Cam haters

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

He's actually has been accurate throwing downfield prior to this last game.  There have been perfectly thrown balls dropped too.  Quit piling on him cause he had a bad game,  this is exactly what everyone hates about the Cam haters

Although the SF game was by far his worst, he has not really shown consistent accuracy throwing deep down field.

I like Allen and hope he keeps developing, but he is averaging fewer than 1 completion beyond 20 yards per game, which is not indicative of accurate deep balls.  He has had a couple drops, but he has also missed guys. 

[GoPanthers123]

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think you're going to be mighty disappointed.

Hopefully not because he is now holding our playoff hopes in his hands.

[top dawg]

6 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

Kyle is a very good backup. Samuel is a trash receiver. 

According to NFL Next Gen stats, you simply don't know what you're talking about.

Some of you need to appreciate the receivers more. This "can't get open" narrative is B.S.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving

 

[Chief Keek]

So you mean to tell me he's a plain jane? Who would've thunk it

[Bartin]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

According to NFL Next Gen stats, you simply don't know what you're talking about.

Some of you need to appreciate the receivers more. This "can't get open" narrative is B.S.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving

 

Which stat am I supposed to be impressed with here? The bottom 25% separation of 2.5 yards?

[bigdog10]

Just get us one more win this weekend Kyle and then hand the keys back to the captain. 

[MasterAwesome]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

According to NFL Next Gen stats, you simply don't know what you're talking about.

Some of you need to appreciate the receivers more. This "can't get open" narrative is B.S.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving

 

“Cushion” just means how far away the defender lines up opposite the receiver pre-snap. You wanna look at separation.

[SBiii]

49 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

Just get us one more win this weekend Kyle and then hand the keys back to the captain. 

Agreed.

What are the chances Cam is ready to play next week?

[mav1234]

43 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

“Cushion” just means how far away the defender lines up opposite the receiver pre-snap. You wanna look at separation.

Average CAR WR separation is pretty middle of the pack, but that is because Wright is in the top third of the league in separation (3.4 yards of separation).  That is in contrast to Samuel and Moore, both of whom are in the bottom third of the league. :(  some of that, tho, has to do with how we are often using them.  a short passing game is going to cause a lot of defenders to be near to the ball.  

More troubling is that our non-RB receiving corps is 5th *worst* in the league with a 55% catch percentage.  Only Miami, Denver, Cleveland, Pit are worse...

For comparison, the top 5 teams in catch % are MIN at 71.5%, ATL at 72 %, DAL at 72.7%, SF at 73 %, and HOU at 74%.

[Davidson Deac II]

12 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

Last time we had a legit downfield passing game was 2015. 

This.  Its been a problem for a while.  I think it was after the Redskins game last year that I read we were 1 of 14 on passes over 20 yards.  And things haven't gotten better.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Bartin said:

Which stat am I supposed to be impressed with here? The bottom 25% separation of 2.5 yards?

You do realize that these are the top receivers, right?  They aren't the best at separation, but are also.far from the worst. Julio Jones has a 2.3 for example. You do realize that these are rankings based upon all their metrics? And honestly, considering their relatively modest experience compared to some, I'd say they're doing pretty well. 

I stand by what I said. The they-can't-open sentiment is B.S.

We should've kept their WR coach. They'd probably be doing even better. 

[Mr. Scot]

That's one point I agree with.

I'm not seeing a lot of benefit out of changing from Lance Taylor to Jim Hostler.

(except him being less competition for Scott Turner getting the OC job when Norv retires, of course)