What QB does Kyle Allen remind you of?

[CRA]

55 minutes ago, SmartyHurney said:

This is what I mean by obtuse. You're looking at something that has nothing to do with my original statement to prove I'm wrong. Pre-snap motion is almost always going to happen, unless the play is changed and there's too little time. What they're doing with Kyle is having lots of a pre-snap motion, more than the average team to help disguise the primary target. Why? Because it's pretty much the only read Kyle is making. It's not that complicated, you can check my post history I stated this a week ago as well. They're doing so much pre-snap to help Allen. Allen is not commanding anything, or changing anything, he's either handing it off or hitting his first read / the checkdown.

and yet we are winning games with Allen.  6-1. 

I mean if only he was calling audibles!  3-4 would be better with him changing plays!

go watch tell me how impressive Danny Dimes is pre-snap.  

Your bar for Allen make no sense.  You are setting bar as if he is a year 2-3 player.  He is a 23 year old green backup.   

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Craig Morton

Or Shane Falco.

I have a hard time imagining somebody that looks like Allen saying "chicks dig scars".

[Car123]

Randy Fasani

[332nd]

Joey Joe-Joe Shabadoo... Jr.

[Floppin]

Mark Sanchez

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, SmartyHurney said:

Literally has never happened. What we're doing with Kyle is running a vanilla offense with a lot of pre-snap motion. That has nothing to do with Kyle, that's how the play is designed. We're asking everyone on the offense to make it easier for Kyle.

You're being obtuse.

Your intimation is that we are dumbing it down for Kyle and that is holding back the offense and I would disagree. We are using more max protections, rolling Kyle out, and using motion in order to help Kyle figure out the defense because he is not Cam and needs the different gameplanning in order to be most effective. When you change from Cam of course there is going to need  to be changes in gameplanning. Let's be real here, there are no athletes like Cam at quarterback. What we are doing is gameplanning their defense and everyone on offense has to do their part and make plays for us to succeed. Norv knows what Allen does best and what the defense will give us. So we do the best we can with what we have and hope it is enough. Kyle can run all the plays, he just won't be Cam doing it.

[panthers55]

He reminds me of early Jake. Unknown without a great track record. Coming in without great skills or athleticism just doing the best he can to win some games. I hope that DJ  and Samuel can both do their best Smitty imitations. I figure it will take two good receivers to fill Smitty's shoes.

[adub2b23]

Alex Smith is his ceiling. Weak arm but can probably learn to read defenses well enough to be a starter

[Malt Liquor]

Terry Bradshaw in 1972....

[ForJimmy]

Timmy Chang?

[Wolfpack352]

14 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

Kyle is absolutely a one read quarterback. If it's not there, he checks down to cmc. He locks on to receivers from the snap

I disagree, yes he has locked down from time to time.  But maybe he feels he doesn't have the time to make his reads, feels the pressure coming and checks down to CMC which is a very good option to move the chains.  I can remember many a times screaming at Cam to check it down to wide open CMC but instead he keeps reading for that long open pass that just wasn't there and then starts to scramble to avoid a sack, but we all saw.....he just kept taking those hits over and over.  

[bababoey]

Kyle has always looked like Andy Dalton to me.  Not current Andy Dalton but the one in his first 3 or 4 years in the league when the Bengals had all kinds of talent on the OL and good recievers.  He will look good when the talent around him is good, but when the talent around him is not good he won't look good.

[Khyber53]

13 hours ago, electro's horse said:

ding ding. 

body makeup, throw, everything. i think Ryan is a little taller, throws over the top a little better, but Kyle looks exactly like Ryan did about halfway through his second season. Remember, for the first year and a half, Ryan just handed the ball off to Turner or threw PA outs to Roddy White. It took him a few years to learn how to read difference and find the holes in coverages. 

Allen is already starting to do that. 

Ryan has never had the biggest arm in the league, but he's still learned to be one of the most prolific passers just by understanding coverages and knowing where his receivers are going to be. 

This is a pretty concise take on it. I think you're spot on.

And learning to read and react to defenses is a huge part of being a successful NFL QB. No amount of arm strength or mobility can overcome a lack of understanding. Give the Kid some time.

[Peppers90 NC]

2018 Cam without runs but a slightly better deep ball