Matt Rhule is not into analytics, and his offensive philosophy is archaic and inefficient

[ellis]

1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

49ers and Ravens and Packers and Vikings and Seattle all run the ball and run it well

they are all in the hunt for a Super Bowl 

This is what typically wins when it matters the most. 

[CRA]

Rhule does have a lot more in common with old coaches than some are going to want acknowledge. 

Ball control.  Playing to your D.  Etc. 

I’m still baffled a dude that went 0-11 vs the top 25 was just given such a sweet deal and was the college hire....and his offenses at Baylor were nothing spectacular.   And we made him the 6th highest paid coach 

 

[Pimpdaddy]

i dont care what he is...odds are definitely against him... its a bold and chancy move on Moneys part....guess thats why he has the brass balls.... I am thankful that it wasnt the fashionable pick i..e. Pats coaching tree.... or a fossil retread.  

[tiger7_88]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Something I'm keeping in the back of my mind...

They asked Sean Payton about him, and Payton mentioned that Rhule is friends with Saints assistant GM Jeff Ireland (both went to Baylor).

Rhule didn't go to Baylor, he only coached there.

Rhule played for Joe Paterno at Penn State.

[TheRumGone]

Rhule played with Lavar at penn state. Lavar said he’s biased but he was the smartest football player he’s ever played with. 

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, bobowilson said:

There seems to be a perception Rhule is an analytics guy, but this couldn't be further from the truth.  He's actually pretty similar to Rivera, in that he's conservative, obsessed with running the ball, and playing for 'field position'.

Anyone who watched their Bowl game last week will remember he punted on 4th and 1 at midfield when he was down by 2 touchdowns.  There's a lot more to analytics than 4th down decisions, but these kind of conservative decisions demonstrate a lack of awareness.  And in fact, he punts on 4th down quite a bit (and even when you hear him discuss his decison making, it's always best on some gut feeling he had, rather than numbers).

He could still be a successful coach.   Perhaps he'a adaptable and will embrace analytics if someone teaches him.  But he's going to need coordinators who are lot brighter and more innovative than he is, as his main selling point seems to be his leadership abilities and not anything tactical.  

There has to be something Tepper heard from Rhule that we're not aware of, but as of now, it's a mystery.

 

 

How did you become such a confident expert on this coach in such a small period of time?  Amazing, unless you were just cherry picking a perspective and cutting an pasting the links, but I don't get that vibe.

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Rhule didn't go to Baylor, he only coached there.

Rhule played for Joe Paterno at Penn State.

Correct. I'll fix it.

[pantherclaw]

OP hasn't done any research,  besides watching 1 bowl game. Don't be that ignorant.  Get informed.

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

OP hasn't done any research,  besides watching 1 bowl game. Don't be that ignorant.  Get informed.

Did you read the interview Rhule gave that is contained in the twitter links in the original post?

 

[pantherclaw]

4 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Did you read the interview Rhule gave that is contained in the twitter links in the original post?

 

I've done more that that. 

Not my problem you think running the ball is archaic,  and haven't bothered to actually listen to the man's ideology beyond a couple of tweets. 

[bobowilson]

Just now, pantherclaw said:

I've done more that that. 

 

Cite any examples of Rhule incorporating analytics at Temple or Baylor (as a coach, not recruiting)

I'll wait....

 

[Harbingers]

@bobowilson he wanted to fund his science project in sports. Aka analytics. 

[pantherclaw]

33 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Cite any examples of Rhule incorporating analytics at Temple or Baylor (as a coach, not recruiting)

I'll wait....

 

My statement that you have no idea of this man's philosophy at football, stands. 

You haven't disproved, and you can't.  

[trueblade]

50 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Cite any examples of Rhule incorporating analytics at Temple or Baylor (as a coach, not recruiting)

I'll wait....

 

. At Baylor, he had a program and staff that was focused on using sports science and player development to help the team’s performance. The Applied Performance Department used data and other research to help all athletes at Baylor perform to the best of their ability. There’s no doubt that Rhule’s desire to build a similar type of group with the Panthers aligned with Tepper’s vision.

Scott Fowler, The Charlotte Observer: Matt Rhule isn’t an ‘offensive genius.’ He’s a fixer, and the Panthers need fixing

This was in Scott's thread of Rhule links. I didn't even have to leave the board to find it.