Corona Virus

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, rippadonn said:

So clinical trials included masks knitted by granny and 2week old surgical masks not even worn properly.

To busy attacking and not comprehending. Who pays for a study says a lot.

 

[Wes21]

10 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

Well in all honesty, I barely know the guy. I find his disregard for the virus appalling and his responses foolish. Hell, he could be incredible in every other regard but I wouldn't know. I don't spend much time in local politics outside of my own jurisidiction. I focus on him because I think it's an example for what our own leaders should avoid with regards to handling the virus. Unfortunately his COVID rhetoric matches those of some within the NC legislature, so all the more reason to call it out. It's hard to argue that his handling of COVID thus far has been commendable. I'm willing to give it some time if you think things might get better sooner rather than later and admit I was wrong. But I'm reasonably confident that won't be the case. 

You've already said you don't care what the results are.  Weird flex but okay.

[TheRumGone]

Cam’s been calling out non mask wearers on social media 

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Football is well over half, some over 60% of college annual sports revenue...even if by some kind of way they play games, there will be no fans, so no gate revenue

losing ncaa basketball cash was a killer, losing football is gonna crush some of the college sports programs

Yep. It could get ugly. Honestly, it really may make the most sense to cancel all the sports until revenue sports are back. It will keep the athletic departments from falling into a big hole.

[Tbe]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yep. It could get ugly. Honestly, it really may make the most sense to cancel all the sports until revenue sports are back. It will keep the athletic departments from falling into a big hole.

The problem is a lot of big and small programs are built on debt. Losing a full year of revenue could mean financial disaster.

[CRA]

13 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

A little over 1000 hospitalizations in a population of 10.5 million when this thing has been here since March does not say "hotspot" to me. 

well it isn’t like there are just 1000 people hospitalized.  It is a number.  People die and the number still grows.  The growth rate is like the 4th worst in the country I think.  Percent positive is still growing.   It shouldn’t be at this stage.   We botched the fug out of this because we have bad leadership on many levels and too many  stupid people. 

SC is as hotspot.

Out of the total population how much of the population do they believe have been exposed?  Will be at the current positivity rate? That is a worrisome figure.  Given it a novel virus.   Which means they don’t know poo about it.  And what it means for all this mild cases and their health going forward.  Lot of concerning reports about what it could mean for people down the road. 

But I conceded their aren’t many options but to say fug it and take it on the chin at this point because of how disastrously we have handled it.   Our government top to bottom proved to be a clown show on this.  Highlights how doomed we are when something more serious occurs.  

[Tbe]

27 minutes ago, bull123 said:

I didn’t know that....some programs with big time donor cash going in listed here

Not enough donor cash to keep them out of huge debts apparently.

These are just the top 10 though. Tons of smaller schools with similar debt to revenue ratios that don’t have a big donor base.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Imagine being so terrible at business that you have free labor and still find a way to be nine figures in the hole.

[Wes21]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

But I conceded their aren’t many options but to say fug it and take it on the chin at this point because of how disastrously we have handled it.   Our government top to bottom proved to be a clown show on this.  Highlights how doomed we are when something more serious occurs.  

I've said for a while now that we really needed this in order to be prepared for a much deadlier virus in the future.  This trial run helped fix (and expose) some issues we had in the way we did things, and what kind of supplies and capacity we keep on hand.  I think hospitals in highly densely populated areas need to be forced to carry more space for surge capacity in the case of a future breakout.  That space can either be ready made, or easily built out to receive overflow patients.

[Wes21]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Imagine being so terrible at business that you have free labor and still find a way to be nine figures in the hole.

If it was a business decision alot of the sports (particularly women's sports) would go away.

[Tbe]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Imagine being so terrible at business that you have free labor and still find a way to be nine figures in the hole.

Arms races aren’t cheap.

But yeah, what a crap show.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

If it was a business decision alot of the sports (particularly women's sports) would go away.

Imagine if higher learning was actually about the student and not sports or lining the PhDs "teaching" students with 6-figure salaries.  Just think colleges/universities actually existed stayed financially sound before sports proliferated on campuses 50-years or so ago.  Crazy, I know!

[Wes21]

11 hours ago, electro's horse said:

you have to understand that the american healthcare system is run like any other business; there's no room to expand, there's no room for excess. excess is something that isn't making you money. it's why you're seeing things like in houston where you're hospitals are expanding into children's hospitals

so don't look at it like "once we reach x% then the poo hits the fan." think of it as "the closer we get to x% the less effective we are at treating it." 

without massive federal intervention (that's not coming) there's only so much upward scaling you can do in such a short amount of time. 

anything can be an icu bed. I can slap a 25 year old heart monitor on a bed in the hall and call it an icu bed. But do I have the staff to man it? Do i have the equipment? can i do everything i need to do if thigns go pear shaped?

I remember responding to a healthcare client who was looking at expanding their ICU space a few months ago.  One option was to convert some conference rooms into space for beds.  They found a configuration that would allow 20+ beds per conference room.  We would have to rip out all of the carpet, add power and medical gases, etc.  What struck me was when they said they'd have 1-2 medical personnel monitoring per room.  So 20+ beds and only 1 to 2 people?  Is that normal?  Then we went to another building they had on campus, where they had a big open shell space for "future expansion."  It would have been great to be able to build it there, but the medical gases you guys use were not piped to the building...so it was going to be extremely expensive and time consuming to get the med gases into that space for a "just in case" scenario, so we kind of ditched that idea before exploring it very far.  But then as we were leaving, we noticed on our way out that since that building wasn't originally designed with those big beds in mind, there were doorways that would need to be ripped out and rebuilt.

[Wes21]

24 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Imagine if higher learning was actually about the student and not sports or lining the PhDs "teaching" students with 6-figure salaries.  Just think colleges/universities actually existed stayed financially sound before sports proliferated on campuses 50-years or so ago.  Crazy, I know!

Sports play an important part in engaging the general populous with the schools.  Its a connecting factor, and is a good recruiting tool for them.  It also brings in a poo ton of money that wouldn't pour into the schools without the connection thru the sports programs.  Schools call and beg for money all of the time, and they find that they are more successful in obtaining donations when people are excited about the sports teams (the team is doing well).  But, if things were done purely as a business decision, most schools would only have the biggest sports and most women's sports would not exist.