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Panthers trade QB Kyle Allen !!


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3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Or maybe Ron knows he's already squeezed every ounce of pain and blood out of the man and Cam no longer has the ability to save Rivera's sorry ass anymore.

See this illustrates a fundamental difference in reading the situation over all these years.

I believe Cam was treated with kid gloves by the team. His coach was a huge enabler that allowed Cam to dictate that he was playing, hurt or not, many times (which did not help the team or the player). I think Rivera loved him, felt he owed him, all that since it was Rivera's first HC job and they came in together. Cam was his pride and joy. Couldn't say no.

As opposed to the attitude that feels Rivera cruelly used up a transcendent athlete and it is all on him. Just how it looked to me.

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3 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

....I'm getting a little optimistic about Cam's trade value now...getting a third for him is feasible. 

He just has one year on the contract, right? And his salary cap hit is much higher than Allen's. The value in Allen is that he has stepped in when needed and comes real cheap.

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3 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

See this illustrates a fundamental difference in reading the situation over all these years.

I believe Cam was treated with kid gloves by the team. His coach was a huge enabler that allowed Cam to dictate that he was playing, hurt or not, many times (which did not help the team or the player). I think Rivera loved him, felt he owed him, all that since it was Rivera's first HC job and they came in together. Cam was his pride and joy. Couldn't say no.

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You don't even deserve a Heston for that utter clap-trap, dude.  You only get a Nicholson.

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17 minutes ago, Catsmiaow said:

 November 2019

 Kyle Allen 23/36 256 yards 3 TDs 0 ints

Vs NO saints brought the team back from 14-0 down and 31-18 down.

= not close to being a starting NFL QB.

OK.

Did we or did we not finish the season on an 8 game losing streak?

Maybe you should follow him to Washington if you like losing so much.

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2 hours ago, bull123 said:

hurney is not the reason we cant get anything for Cam

Really?

Teams WERE interested, it was known around the circles at seniorbowl week etc

We jumped the gun letting it all out and known that he wouldn't be here next year reguardless

 

Now magic, teams arent interested in him anymore.  And word is teams like the Patriots will just wait for him to be Cut.

 

Now Hurney didnt air out the public message on the internet.  But he should let the organization know to keep hush until something happens.  Or any chance of trading him gets flushed down the toilet like it did

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1 minute ago, TheSpecialJuan said:
Kyle Allen knows HC Ron Rivera’s system & will be a good back up. A young QB that can make all the throws. Ball comes out quick, is accurate, & good on his feet. Rivera believed he could win w/ him. Saying he made quick decisions & was calm under pressure. TO’s are a concern.

Forgot to add...has zero pocket presence, lacks awareness, throws a terrible deep ball, closes his eyes and just chucks it

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47 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Or maybe Ron knows he's already squeezed every ounce of pain and blood out of the man and Cam no longer has the ability to save Rivera's sorry ass anymore.

Tell it like is ^

Ron Rivera is a cross eyed vampire. He sucked the blood and life from Cam to extend his own football life. When Cam was depleted, Ron turned to Christian McCaffery and started to do the same to him.

 

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17 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Did we or did we not finish the season on an 8 game losing streak?

Maybe you should follow him to Washington if you like losing so much.

 Such dislike for KA. Anyone who dares speak up for the UDFA reserve QB should go follow another team because he wasn't as good as Cam? Just listen to yourself. Its kind of sad.

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4 minutes ago, Catsmiaow said:

 Such dislike for KA. Anyone who dares speak up for the UDFA reserve QB should go follow another team because he wasn't as good as Cam? Just listen to yourself. Its kind of sad.

Oh stop the waterworks already. The "dislike" is for losing. Not even the only Panthers MVP in team history has gotten a pass for losing. Kyle Allen is hardly the only former Panther to get kicked out the door anyway, nobody shed a tear for Thomas Davis or Greg Olsen. Why should a UDFA who played here one year be any different?

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