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ESPN's trade scenarios for every pick


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https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/story/_/id/29018757/2020-nfl-mock-draft-all-trades-32-picks-32-trades-bill-barnwell#7

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7. Carolina Panthers

Trade with Washington

Panthers get: 1-2
Washington gets: 1-7, 5-152, RB Christian McCaffrey

The Panthers are faced with an impossible bind when it comes to McCaffrey. The star running back was incredible last season and has a strong case as the NFL's best back, but that guy was Todd Gurley two years ago. You know what has happened since. It would be unfair to use Gurley as the sole data point in analyzing McCaffrey's future, but the vast majority of big contracts for running backs have turned out to be disasters. Carolina went through two such deals during general manager Marty Hurney's first run with the team, when both Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams struggled after signing lucrative deals to stay with the team.

McCaffrey is eligible for an extension this offseason. If the Panthers are going to buck the trend and deal him before handing out a Gurley- or Ezekiel Elliott-sized contract, now is the time. Washington hasn't been able to solve its running back problem for years, and McCaffrey gives it a player who can both take pressure off Dwayne Haskins and actually get people into what was a half-empty stadium last season. New coach Ron Rivera knows how helpful McCaffrey can be. Washington would miss out on pass-rusher Chase Young, but it would still be in line to draft its left tackle of the future at No. 7 and move on from Trent Williams.

 

Christian McCaffrey had 2,392 yards from scrimmage and 19 total touchdowns last season. Nick Cammett/Diamond Images/Getty Images

This trade values McCaffrey as equivalent to the 15th pick in a typical draft by the Jimmy Johnson chart. The Panthers would be moving up to grab either a much-needed franchise pass-rusher in Young or their quarterback of the future, sneaking ahead of whichever team might try to trade with the Lions at No. 3. It's far more likely that the Panthers just extend McCaffrey's contract and hope he's the exception to the rule about running backs, but if they trust recent history, the time to deal the former Stanford star is now

So basically trading CMC and a Fith for Young or Tua.

Would you do it?

 

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The only way I'd do it is for a guy we viewed as a slam dunk franchise QB. There's no way I make that trade to draft Chase Young. I think the guy is gonna be a straight stud, but you can't give up the #7 overall pick and the best non-QB offensive player in the league for any prospect that you don't view as a slam dunk franchise QB IMO.

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CMC, a 5th, AND our top 10 draft pick. Sounds terrible. All of that and we still wouldn’t get Burrow... I get that Tua could be great, but he has a good amount of risk with him. You also don’t trade away all of that for a DE. I would only consider this if we got Burrow, and I will still probably lean towards no.

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only way I'd do it is for a guy we viewed as a slam dunk franchise QB. There's no way I make that trade to draft Chase Young. I think the guy is gonna be a straight stud, but you can't give up the #7 overall pick and the best non-QB offensive player in the league for any prospect that you don't view as a slam dunk franchise QB IMO.

Young is at a position of higher value than CMC so I can't necessarily say it is a terrible trade......until you see that we give up additional draft capital. That makes no sense, IMO.

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A stud RB About to get a huuugh contract for a Maybe stud DE on a 5 year cheap contract at a way more valued position.  Its not as  idiodic as you may think.

But...

 

No way do we trade the only face of the franchise we have left this offseason. Keep CMC as long as possible then trade him before the big contract. 

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LOL that’s retarded. Maybe I’d think about McC for the 2nd overall pick straight up but giving up McC to move up just 5 spots is retarded unless a Trevor Lawrence caliber prospect at QB is sitting there.

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