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Panthers alumni answer questions about Cam Newton

Icege

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onmyown Grand Master

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I like Cole’s answers. It’s a business, people get cut and it’s not pretty. You’re a grown ass man. You signed a contract (like all the other QBs he mentioned) that allowed your company to do this, gave them the right. They don’t owe you anything, why try to come back around about it? They decided to go a new direction. Where’s all this being owed something when these players go chase the money taking fat contracts and not standing by the team that drafted them? Neither is owed a happy ending.

Cam wasn’t done wrong, the checks he gets from the Panther’s will clear and that’s all that matter, it’s a business and when you start having employees believed they’re owed something at the cost of the business as a whole its pathetic, selfish and immature.

 

 

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This is the list of players who commented in the article:

Mike Tolbert, Roman Harper, Jordan Gross, Mushin Muhammad, Colin Cole, Frank Garcia, Wesley Walls.

How many made 1st Team All-Pro the same number of times as Cam?

And who made it more times?

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3 hours ago, Panthera onca said:

Tolbert is trolling here. Cam controlled the time line of his surgeries. It’s disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

 

..and, you know this how?  I’ll take Tolbert’s view. He was in the locker room. He was in the games. He knows the coaches, trainers and Newton.

what do you have to contradict it?

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13 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

..and, you know this how?  I’ll take Tolbert’s view. He was in the locker room. He was in the games. He knows the coaches, trainers and Newton.

what do you have to contradict it?

He hasn't been in the locker room for a few years. Definately not while Cam's injuries were going on.

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Tolbert's comments are interesting. Up until that, I think it was believed that Cam was the one delaying surgeries. If it was the team, then that's pretty messed up.

Either way, I don't fault anyone for delaying surgery. People make it out to be no big deal, but there is a significant chance that you don't heal properly from any surgery, and Doctors often prefer you exhaust all rehabilitation options before going under the knife. 

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2 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

He was in the locker room in 2016, when cams shoulder injury occurred. If my math is correct the last 2-3 years he was on the roster, in which he commented on it being mismanaged. 

And he was gone way before TC 2017. The Panthers went 11-5, Tolbert is full of crop. 

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5 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Tolbert's comments are interesting. Up until that, I think it was believed that Cam was the one delaying surgeries. If it was the team, then that's pretty messed up.

Either way, I don't fault anyone for delaying surgery. People make it out to be no big deal, but there is a significant chance that you don't heal properly from any surgery, and Doctors often prefer you exhaust all rehabilitation options before going under the knife. 

Cam doesn't have to "beg" anyone to have surgery. If a medical professional tells him its necessary, there isn't crap anyone can do about it, the NFLPA would have a field day with that. 

Can people please get past this? Cam is announced for trade, and Ron Rivera sends a 5th rounder for Kyle allen... does that not tell you EVERYTHING you need to know? If cam was anywhere near where he needs to be, Ron would've jumped.

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