You need to start wondering what you'd give up to get Lawrence

[uncfan888]

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

He just said Lawrence is trash, so there ya go. 

He can have teddy. Let him enjoy the 4 yard throws on third and 6

[nctarheelreincarnated]

1 minute ago, Rags said:

just gonna focus on this because the rest is "QB IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION" thing and everyone knows that. But that doesn't mean it isn't over valued. 

My argument here is that's 4 rings over 54 Super bowls won by those first overall picks. 6 if you count Elis.

Yes QB is the most important position. Yes Trevor is the best QB since Luck (though I think a healthy Tua is up there too.) and yes if we're picking #1 overall we take him.

But we're not damned to mediocrity if we don't take him. 

If we keep Teddy at QB, that is also debatable. Teddy is a QB that you have to have two excellent wideouts, a well above average O-Line, and a damn solid-great defense to win a Title with. While Payton showed he didn't need that, although it would've helped, Elway the same. Eli was also sort of in that boat. If you get a Franchise QB first, you're set for a long, ass, time. Injuries not withstanding. While with Bridgewater, do you really want to take that chance with him? Just feels like a one shot hope at winning a SB one year, and that's it. 

[raz]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Are you at all embarrassed for starting yet another in a long line of lawrence thread just after the Panthers first victory?

no, they're crying in front of their trevor posters and making offerings

[stbugs]

5 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Lol.  dude come on.  Yet the best QB of all time was a 7th round pick?  And the biggest bust of all time was a #1?  And the second biggest bust of all time was also a #1?  

He was a 6th, but let’s be honest here, are we actually trying to say historically that QBs taken in the 6th round are the best? 1st round QBs litter playoff teams and make up most starters. Brady, Montana and Wilson are once a decade exceptions. Because QBs are so highly valued, there are plenty of high pick busts that people remember because teams tend to overdraft and unlike the 2021 draft class is looking there are years where the QB draft class is pretty mediocre and guys like Russell go way to high or Darnold and Mayfield become top 4 picks.

Anyway, after today, I’ve given up my hope to get a top QB. There are just way too many shitty shitty teams and we won’t get ahead of them and we don’t play as many bad teams.

[Pantherxtreme]

8 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

4th qtr offense is definitely a problem for them.  Today they had 6 yards of 4th qtr offense up until the last desperation drive, when they got 31 yards and a interception.

So take former NFL MVP Matt Ryan out of the lineup and insert Trevor Lawrence and the Falcons wins today got it. 

[Smithers]

6 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

I don't pull for losses but this season I do begrudgingly accept them as setbacks and nothing guarentees success just a better chance at elite level players.

So explain to me how the Patriots, who always pick 30-32, keep winning without these so called elite level players?  

[Logic]

24 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’m not optimistic to get any of the top QBs. We will lose tiebreakers on SOS so I think we are going to be out of the running. Sucks because I don’t see us getting good enough to really compete. Oh well, it was a nice thought while it lasted. I miss a healthy Cam and that’s what I was hoping for, a franchise QBS who can get you there. Teddy’s a nice guy and it’s amazing he’s even playing at this point but damn, we dominated that team and we came one flip away from losing. I mean he sure is on pace for his 14TDs.

[Panthercougar68]

Listen..when the Panthers trade a 2nd round to Bill O'Brien for Deshaun Watson yall will be ok.

[Rags]

4 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Debatable. But, that's neither here nor there. Regardless, picking first and getting a QB that can win you a Super Bowl is more likely to happen, than picking one in the 2nd or 3rd round and hoping they do well. Look at Will Greir FFS. Sure, their are outliers, but those are few and far between. 

6 rings in 54 Super Bowls from #1 overall picks.

I can absolutely see that argument for first round QBs. I haven't watched any Lance yet and I'm very on the "Fields is overrated" side of things but if push comes to shove I can see taking either of those two. Unless Teddy balls the fug out I see us taking a QB this draft. Jamie Newsome is a guy I really like.

But Lawrence isn't gonna garuntee us a super bowl. 

I know there's an astrik next to Luck thanks to Gringson's incompetence, but both Luck and Eli were outdone by QBs in their class in terms of consistency (Russ and Big Ben)

Lawrence is really fugin good but whether we get him or not doesn't damn us.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

7 minutes ago, Rags said:

just gonna focus on this because the rest is "QB IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION" thing and everyone knows that. But that doesn't mean it isn't over valued. 

My argument here is that's 4 rings over 54 Super bowls won by those first overall picks. 6 if you count Elis.

Yes QB is the most important position. Yes Trevor is the best QB since Luck (though I think a healthy Tua is up there too.) and yes if we're picking #1 overall we take him.

But we're not damned to mediocrity if we don't take him. 

Picking #1 isn't just about the player/QB selected its the fact you had full reign to pick any selected thereafter as well...

[Smithers]

4 minutes ago, stbugs said:

He was a 6th, but let’s be honest here, are we actually trying to say historically that QBs taken in the 6th round are the best? 1st round QBs litter playoff teams and make up most starters. Brady, Montana and Wilson are once a decade exceptions. Because QBs are so highly valued, there are plenty of high pick busts that people remember because teams tend to overdraft and unlike the 2021 draft class is looking there are years where the QB draft class is pretty mediocre and guys like Russell go way to high or Darnold and Mayfield become top 4 picks.

Anyway, after today, I’ve given up my hope to get a top QB. There are just way too many shitty shitty teams and we won’t get ahead of them and we don’t play as many bad teams.

A lot of my family members are Eagles fans.  They sure do wish they would not have selected Wentz #2 overall.  
 

 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

7 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

If we keep Teddy at QB, that is also debatable. Teddy is a QB that you have to have two excellent wideouts, a well above average O-Line, and a damn solid-great defense to win a Title with. While Payton showed he didn't need that, although it would've helped, Elway the same. Eli was also sort of in that boat. If you get a Franchise QB first, you're set for a long, ass, time. Injuries not withstanding. While with Bridgewater, do you really want to take that chance with him? Just feels like a one shot hope at winning a SB one year, and that's it. 

Bridgewater is perfectly ironic as he is just that a Bridge QB.

[jfra78]

13 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Who are you? 

Some dude who got banned and created an alt, cant remeber his name.  

[Jeremy Igo]

Merging all lawrence threads with this one from now on.