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Supposing we do draft a quarterback in Round One...

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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pantherj Grand Master

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We can't ignore all the QB talent coming out of college just because Teddy is decent. The rest of the NFL is loading up with possible franchise QBs, and we have Teddy. Not good enough if our goal is to win the SB. Hell it's not good enough if we want to beat all the other teams who have young future superstars at QB and just need time to groom them. What's worse is that our main NFCS rival's coach, offensive genius and future HoF coach kept Hill over Teddy, so in the mind of Payton we have the lesser QB of the two. When an offensive genius and future HoF coach thinks your QB isn't good enough to keep for the future it's case closed. That's all I need to know. We need a better QB. 

This draft represents the last chance we will have in a long time to draft a QB in the top 10. In fact, were in not for CMC being injured, we would not be drafting in the top 10 this time either. We would have beaten the Vikings with CMC imo. This is our final shot at drafting a high 1st round QB barring some sort of disaster. After this season we will load up our roster and dump our worst players. A roster upgrade along with Teddy being more familiar with our offense going into his second season will lead to 8-8ish results barring a QB injury imo. Strike now or wait a long time.

 

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As long as he looks ready leading up to the season, start him right away. I can’t take one more game beyond this season of Teddy Two Yards Shy of the Sticks. Our OL isn’t that bad, he isn’t gonna get Carr’d, that’s ridiculous. Our line has looked better this year than in years.  If Moton leaves and our OL looks worse next year, sure sit him and make sure he gets comfortable with the speed of the game before throwing him out there.  

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The OL needs chemistry.  We need to add a young player or two, and they need to communicate. A rookie QB is not likely to be as good as Teddy early on, but after a few weeks, he might.  These players are competitors and most have always started.  You learn a lot--you hear a lot---on the sideline and in the film room. 

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14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you don't have a franchise QB and you think there's one on the board, you draft him. Honestly it's just that simple. You can build a great team with a deficiency at any position other than QB.

What's the hit rate success when drafting "franchise QB's"?

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12 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not great, but a lot better than the hit rate on former 1st round pick reclamation projects on their fourth roster in six years.

 

11 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Pretty low, shitty QBs like Teddy bring that avg down a lot. That's why hou replace him.

 

What are you looking for in order to confidently bracket a "franchise QB"?

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1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

 

 

What are you looking for in order to confidently bracket a "franchise QB"?

I leave that up to the professional talent evaluators. But basically a combination of physical talent, football intelligence, and intangibles ("it factor" if you will). All I can go off of as a fan is watching them play, listening to their media interviews, input from "insiders", etc. The actual talent evaluators get a much bigger picture by going much more in depth and having the opportunity to directly interact with the prospects and putting them through the ringer. And they still swing and miss often. Prospect evaluation will always be a very inexact science.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I leave that up to the professional talent evaluators. But basically a combination of physical talent, football intelligence, and intangibles ("it factor" if you will). All I can go off of as a fan is watching them play, listening to their media interviews, input from "insiders", etc. The actual talent evaluators get a much bigger picture by going much more in depth and having the opportunity to directly interact with the prospects and putting them through the ringer. And they still swing and miss often. Prospect evaluation will always be a very inexact science.

It will be interesting to see if they do draft a QB.  Were the music to have just stopped the Panthers would be picking #7 and whether or not a franchise QB will be available then I have no idea --- but if they do draft one we should all feel reasonably good about it.

Tepper's core competency is identifying mispriced "value" and if the analytical/evaluation system he has put into place as it goes to football talent points to "draft that QB"....then I'm going to have to believe that kid has a chance to succeed.

I will guarantee you Tepper has built and installed some models/algorithms in various areas of the organization (talent evaluation being a key one) that are unlike anything that has ever been used in the NFL before.  

EDIT/NOTE:  Obviously no model is infallible and Tepper definitely made plenty of trades over the years that lost money --- this will be true with the Panthers as well but over time I believe his system/s will get better and better and ultimately produce a lot of wins and playoff trips.

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